From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 27 21:08:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24385 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:08:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abc.xyz.net (froggy.anchorage.ptialaska.net [208.151.119.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24353 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:08:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from groggy@iname.com) From: groggy@iname.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abc.xyz.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA02136; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:05:56 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from groggy@iname.com) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:05:54 -0800 (AKDT) X-Sender: abc@abc.xyz.net To: Dan Nelson cc: groggy@iname.com, freebsd-questions Subject: Re: lynx & PRE In-Reply-To: <19980927201405.A21471@emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it's not EASY to explain these problems!!! it's driving me crazy and makes me look like a fool. lynx does not necessarily screw up ON the bad html, LYNX WREAKS HAVOC DOWN FARTHER in a document. does this make sense now? for example, ------------------------------------------------------------ BAD HTML GOOD HTML (lynx displays logically) GOOD HTML (lynx displays logically) GOOD HTML (lynx displays logically) BAD HTML (lynx may display this seemingky ok too) GOOD HTML (lynx displays logically) GOOD HTML (lynx displays logically) GOOD HTML (lynx displays logically) GOOD HTML (lynx wreaks havoc here because of BAD HTML above) ------------------------------------------------------------ now, if you take the example below, which DOES seemingly display OK, add run it thru a validator (w3c 4.0 strict for example), you get: Error at line X: [...] [G1] text1 ^ document type does not allow element here believe me - i'm not crazy. i wish lynx WOULD screw up on the bad HTML, but it doesn't. it screws up your document on GOOD HTML, farther down in a document. this is creating hell for me as i try to get my good ole lynx 2.7 and netscape 3.04 web pages working with lynx 2.8 and netscape 3.04. i can't believe no one else has mentioned this hassle. probably not many web authours pay much attention to detail, and/or care about lynx/netscape viewability, and/or mix graphics/text in neat and close arrangements ... i'm not yet necessarily sure that the problems i'm having are the result of the bad HTML. it could be that lynx chokes on certain combinations of elements and tags. this will take alot of work to figure out since lynx appears indescriminate on exactly where the crummy output will appear. On Sun, 27 Sep 1998, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Sep 26), groggy@iname.com said: > > since lynx cannot utilize FRAMES, this destroys all capabilities of > > designing well formatted HTML pages of mixed graphics & text. lynx > > relied on embedding things within PRE block for formatting without > > frames. > > You can always put the lynx-friendly stuff in a container. > > > for example, try this with lynx 2.8: > > > > [G1] text1 [G2] text2 > > [G1] text 1 [G2] text2 > > [G1] text 1 [G2] text2 > > > > with lynx 2.7, this was no problem. > > i could have 2 perfectly aligned columns. > > now, this is impossible. > > > > you cannot say: > > > > <PRE> > > <IMG SRC="g.gif" ALT="[G1]"> text1 <IMG SRC="g.gif" ALT="[G2]"> text2 > > <IMG SRC="g.gif" ALT="[G1]"> text 1 <IMG SRC="g.gif" ALT="[G2]"> text2 > > <IMG SRC="g.gif" ALT="[G1]"> text 1 <IMG SRC="g.gif" ALT="[G2]"> text2 > > </PRE> > > > > any longer. > > I just pasted this into a file and it looks just like your quoted text > above; using lynx 2.8.1dev.29 (20 Sep 1998). What do you see on your > console, and what version of lynx are you using? > > -Dan Nelson > dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message