From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 06:19:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5F016A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:19:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lithium.plan-ix.de (lithium.plan-ix.de [212.37.39.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B8C43D55 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:19:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from braukmann@tse-online.de) Received: from localhost (lithium.plan-ix.de [212.37.39.35]) by lithium.plan-ix.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7157C2EC35D; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:19:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost.plan-ix.de ([212.37.39.35]) by localhost (lithium.plan-ix.de [212.37.39.35]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id 27076-03; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:19:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.225.210] (p50824B7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.130.75.124]) by lithium.plan-ix.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5E02EC35C; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:19:34 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:19:53 +0200 From: Andreas Braukmann To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <41801D44.1060504@elischer.org> References: <20041027194551.54ced1e7.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <20041027175440.GA60198@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041027201443.44f3bb03.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <5521E0229FFC0CAECEA5EA17@[192.168.225.210]> <417FFE5A.2070405@elischer.org> <85C963600BB244852D738B91@[192.168.225.210]> <41801D44.1060504@elischer.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at plan-ix.de cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Oliver Lehmann cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: growfs - Using on mounten FS - planned?- TWE probs.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:19:37 -0000 --On Mittwoch, 27. Oktober 2004 15:12 Uhr -0700 Julian Elischer wrote: > Andreas Braukmann wrote: >> --On Mittwoch, 27. Oktober 2004 13:00 Uhr -0700 Julian Elischer >> wrote: >> >> twe(4) and a bunch of big S-ATA drives in RAID-5 configuration. >> Nothing really impressive nowadays. Sorry, for the new boxes I've meant twa(4), of course. Sorry for this very misleading information. > I'm having infrequent corruption problems with 3ware 7500-8 cards . hmmm. 7500. The 72xx and 7500 series didn't fulfill my expectations concerning RAID-5 performance. I employed them only in RAID 10 confi- gurations. The 7506 series was (IMHO) the first 3Ware device delive- ring a usable RAID-5 implementation. > do you check your data? yes, regularly. > We store GB sized files and we checksum them and we check the checksums over time.... > Over 7 servers we see a couple of file drop chunks of data over a weeks worth > of writing.. either 128KB chunks are not written or the chunk corresponding to > 1 drive's part of a 128KB write never happens. Some of them are defintly firmware > problems but some of them might be driver or OS problems too (or firmware). I can't reproduce this on 7506-8 / RAID-5 / 64 kB stripe size. Just don't bother with non default stripe size on the 3Ware's; the per- formance will suck and its prone to obscure (read: not so widely ex- posed) firmware bugs. > This is with 4.8 + the driver from their website.. and the driver from 4.10 stock twe(4) from RELENG_4 (shortly after 4.8 or 4.10) and 5.1-current (end of september 2003). -Andreas