From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 29 05:55:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5BB1065740 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from passiveprofits@yahoo.com) Received: from web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80EF78FC15 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from passiveprofits@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 850 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Mar 2008 05:55:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ACDVXEgJxTF+OlGwnaFMeO8y6FxcBIux667V+ze9vHB7z6K5QBCRxEYnHQb5EaKqCGKnyEU+O/l8lKmfTZXh1NhQv0knvh14c7RK7jtlrUSWCRg2MvcvA1xx3lYyip4wjvzoMBTFiVXcKoMjDl7r59aaLqQi5Yzvh9TFwz2yyjk=; X-YMail-OSG: _6bMrSsVM1kVnNSjpfaYZLiHqax6X6yGqKNd4A2q Received: from [80.46.113.101] by web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:55:46 PDT Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:55:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Passive PROFITS To: christopher In-Reply-To: <20080326183554.3f5f43b1.skeptikos@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <328844.97931.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question - about newbie user support X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:55:48 -0000 --- christopher wrote: > Well, from the mass of replies you've gotten, Isn't it nice though!? ... As I said, I wasn't sure if my 'hello' would disappear never to be heard of again, or only elicit 'Go away - we're busy'!! LOL As it is, apart from a what seems to be a small misunderstanding which has arisen due to my own ignorance, I feel duly welcomed by the community! > would > say I may be a little late here, but I just wanted > to > offer a little bit. Thanks. > I like FreeBSD it's great, and I too, like someone > else on this list went straight from Windows to] > FreeBSD. It was a steep learning curve, but well > worth it, more so even than my work with Linux. I must admit I had a laugh last night (before I passed out early too tired to try an install!) ... When I saw the London group's website which mentions what seems to connect all BSD users is that they 'like steep learning curves!'. :) The laugh came as I'm yet to find out if that is like steep, which I like, or impossibly steep, which is going to frustrate me. > My main suggestion about learning would be to > subscribe to user group mailing lists. They tend > not to be as high volume as freebsd-questions, and > I've really had a lot of luck with my main list, a > Tucson, AZ, USA, unix group. They have people of > all flavors on there, and it gives me access to > non-freebsd specific resources as well. I solve > a lot of FreeBSD issues by searching linux archives. Right. That's interesting to know. I (still) haven't really got my head around the way BSD is similar and different to Linux. I keep hearing they are both Unix-like, but of course, that means nothing to me, really, yet (though I have some vague sense that 'Unix' is something to do with mainframes, or some such?)! > I also subscribe to specific lists as well, one > for gimp, fvwm, mplayer, and a hand full of others. I do that too for the things I'm interested in. I tend to veer more towards smaller and low(er) volume lists though, by default. The days of enjoying 400 emails coming in every hour are long gone! I am finding it a bit too much just to hang in on the Ubuntu desktop list, especially when it's actually the server list I need to get onto, ... I need to get back into building some decent mail filtering rules, methinks! :( > Maybe there are some for firewalling, who knows. At > first those tend to be awfully technical, but as > time has passed, more of the stuff makes sense to > me and it keeps in touch with issues that I may > not have now, but will eventually. That's about where I am with the SSL list, which I joined some time ago but continue to not even understand, in terms of just the questions, never mind the answers ... But it's really nice to be able to wire yourself into such places, in the hope that one day, the gray cells may just work out something! > Good luck. Thanks Christopher! :) PP > > > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:15:30 -0700 (PDT) > Passive PROFITS wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > First post to any FreeBSD list; be gentle! ;) > > > > Where would be the right place to go looking to > > subscribe to a newbie level user-support list? > > Perhaps rephrased 'complete newbie user support > list' > > ... LOL > > > > I'm only like 9+ months into Linux [Ubuntu > > desktop/server installs v.6.06.1 LTS], though with > 12+ > > years on Windows before that {cough}. Only just > > finding my way around with CLI, etc, etc. > > > > Nevertheless, I wish to try to install and > configure > > FreeBSD as a firewall and I am currently based in > the > > South of England, should that be relevant to any > > response. Any/all pointers much appreciated!! > > > > The only 'official' list seems to be this: > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > But it starts off with the rather intimidating > phrase > > "You should not send "how to" questions to the > > technical lists unless you consider the question > to be > > pretty technical." > > > > Obviously all my questions are going to be pretty > > stupid, 'How-To' type questions, try though I > might to > > get up to speed, I fear it's going to be some time > > indeed before I will graduate out of the stupid > newbie > > type questions! Is there anything out there in > the > > FreeBSD world that might be of help to me, or is > it > > RTFM all the way?! {not as bad as it sounded > > initially, as I hear BSD is well documented?!}... > > > > Anyway - any pointers to something more at my > level > > appreciated, if there is anything in existence. I > do > > appreciate I'm most likely asking my first stupid > > question to any FreeBSD list. Doesn't seem like > an OS > > people arrive at without first being a bit of an > > expert, which I am patently, not! > > > > TIA for any (polite) response at all! > > > > PP > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. 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