From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 29 14:40:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C74716A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:40:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6BB43D41 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 1619516 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:40:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <405056772.20050328020101@wanadoo.fr> References: <154613622.20050327112206@wanadoo.fr> <1666987759.20050328012237@wanadoo.fr> <4247420E.1030307@makeworld.com> <405056772.20050328020101@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:40:20 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:40:23 -0000 On Mar 27, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Chris writes: > >> Tell that to the MS developers then - perhaps they will listen to you. > > Done. What did they say? > >> Tell them to stop producing bloated code. > > I've tried, but that is both a tendency of many developers (especially > PC developers) and a marketing imperative. Isn't that how many FOSS projects get started...do some task more efficiently and "better"? >> Code that allows every 12 year-old on the planet to code a new back >> door, Trojan, or virus. > > Bloat alone doesn't allow that, Nope, but it sure makes it a lot simpler! Actually it helps hamper finding bugs that allow it to happen. > and Microsoft code isn't any more > vulnerable to this than any other code of comparable complexity for PC > systems. As has been shown time and time again in Microsoft-sponsored studies comparing Windows to Linux. After removing the power supply and encasing my system in concrete, it is FAR more secure than I've ever dreamt possible, and that was with it running DOS! :-) >> Tell them - and once they start doing that - maybe the real technical >> users around the world won't snicker when they here the word, >> Microsoft. > > What does any of this have to do with FreeBSD? They're among the chorus that keeps snickering.