From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 17 21:51:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C78106566C for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f192.google.com (mail-px0-f192.google.com [209.85.216.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAD38FC0C for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi30 with SMTP id 30so2454642pxi.7 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:51:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=MXt/KKpSbi0AMvo1KnalcQHWrzC+6nJNkNQK0jaGajI=; b=eMjDqIgrgnx5chM/DyzsVFqqDF2dujY9w1lfAZJVyCF87jx7xHov38twZLCeLCL4zp JLVj8+BbCqaPFT3/Vzx1Xb2rSzWYCya2X45ZgzJPO+HT9XBVE7H2kSMrFEMoCsKT72gr vF7WStF+4ZAVDrBdl30AkY/Zlwi/apLNGQhUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=gpTQkZdCUgQtng3K4A9uV6QmzWBj9BGzLvtAv/f7CteIHViAn3u0sodovF4IWIPoVl ZsmMfCtmNYEbTppqSbmcuFrpMXBQE4LxxZdRFIVXEtnap12uRSwdmF6sKaQw9vqo19xn ZJOkK63HlcXTPg1QVA0LTAkf1tQkDVivW9U2k= Received: by 10.114.249.24 with SMTP id w24mr1413500wah.146.1255816299041; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ip98-163-115-74.dc.dc.cox.net [98.163.115.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm535497pxi.13.2009.10.17.14.51.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:51:35 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: PJ Message-ID: <20091017215135.GA29692@stainmore> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AD8EB8F.9010900@videotron.ca> <20091017010758.088b8b8c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AD9016E.20302@videotron.ca> <4AD90946.4020204@ibctech.ca> <4AD91DE0.3030701@videotron.ca> <200910170234.n9H2YeRI077329@asarian-host.net> <20091017034952.GA26451@stainmore> <4ADA38EB.5050900@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ADA38EB.5050900@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:51:39 -0000 On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 05:36:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Bob Hall wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 02:34:40AM +0000, Mark wrote: > > > >> Actually, this has got very little to do with being a native English > >> speaker or not. It's ere a matter of intonation (which, in writing, can > >> only be conveyed to a certain degree, of course). 'Should' can certainly > >> mean "Don't try that." As in: > >> > >> Will the ice hold me? > >> Well, technically it should. > >> > >> (Meaning: it probably will, but I'm not overly confident.) > >> > > > > Actually, what's happening here is dropping part of a sentence. It's > > common in English to shorten > > Yea, it should work, but it doesn't. > > > Absolutely not! There is nothing to suggest either statement above. If > one says it should work, it can mean (of course, it changes within > different contexts) that all is ok and normal conditions (whatever they > may be) will allow things to function correctly. There is certainly no > implication about confidence... where do you get that? >From common English usage.