From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 9 7:26:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4DE150E8 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id XAA23133; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:22:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <370E0C68.3F59295C@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 23:19:21 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Lea Cc: The Hermit Hacker , Brian Handy , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , obrien@NUXI.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATTENTION PLEASE: g77 in base system. References: <19990409155258.A3791@shale.csir.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [cc trimmed to avoid cross-posting] Jeremy Lea wrote: > > I always thought the criteria for inclusion of things into the base > system was: > > 1. Needed for 'make world'; > 2. Needed to get a basic functioning server up and running; > 3. Something usefull only within FreeBSD (like the kernel ;), or > 4. Can't be effectively built outside of /usr/src. Right or wrong, you forgot: 5. BSD tradition. Case 5 justifies Fortran. Me, I'd rather have Fortran as a port. I'd even grudgingly accept fortune as a port, as a matter of fact. Our base system is bloated. While a lot of widely used programs are only available through ports, a lot of obscure and obsolete stuff remains on our tree. They are there because of 5. As long as 5 exists, Fortran belongs in the tree. If we ever get rid of 5, then it's time to get the knife to our tree... Or the axe, if the vikings decide to have the first cut. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "nothing better than the ability to perform cunning linguistics" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message