From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 01:36:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E249A6F954; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from apnoea.adamw.org (apnoea.adamw.org [204.109.59.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "abg.ninja", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12FA213CF; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by apnoea.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 317785c5 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 18:29:27 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r407270 - head/ports-mgmt/portmaster From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: <201601261123.u0QBNcvL091258@repo.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 18:29:23 -0700 Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201601261123.u0QBNcvL091258@repo.freebsd.org> To: John Marino X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:36:11 -0000 > On 26 Jan, 2016, at 4:23, John Marino wrote: >=20 > Author: marino > Date: Tue Jan 26 11:23:38 2016 > New Revision: 407270 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/407270 >=20 > Log: > ports-mgmt/portmaster: DEPRECATE without expiration date >=20 > Moreover, there are better options available. All FreeBSD platforms > support ports-mgmt/poudriere (although some many struggle under the = load) > and the most common amd64 and i386 platform users have the additional > option of ports-mgmt/synth which is user-friendly, lightweight, and = aimed > at users of portmaster, portupgrade, and even poudriere. John this doesn't feel like a decision you should be making = unilaterally. I agree wholeheartedly that the lack of contribution to = portmaster is troubling, but it still works exactly as intended for = anybody that doesn't use pkg to install binary packages, and is the ONLY = option for people who maintain single servers, instead of server farms, = and have no need to build ports just so they can install them later. synth is written in ada. I'm sorry but any port-management port that = requires over 20 dependencies before it even works is not lightweight. I = assume that dragonflybsd comes with gcc (and ada support maybe), which = is great and I'm super happy for you, but you should not be scaring off = new users (who will install what the handbook tells them to install) = just to promote a new program you wrote. portmaster is in the handbook all over the place. Rewrite all those = sections to demonstrate how to use synth instead and then I'll support = you deprecating portmaster. In the meantime, please revert this. # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org http://www.adamw.org