From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 12 21:42:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE18A106564A for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A8D8FC14 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so342885ele.17 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:42:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hGdgWBxgdwOKAHDgEYRHqPWrUMRPm42OluFB74DRdMc=; b=gwlGrs3Tk2cw57L+uSr0UGVyMOYoYG14lS4BbFD5cs21EA6cdpAeDm2KJq36pOQCup 3WUStR53BWM23tEr6HJbQIredRTjgnIjgSlOa3l26MVX7NY2oYE03wjxc6mIfIQLCkH5 O1th28pUzQoO0WwIRrK1nvZMd9+FhdUIknxy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uusBXQFPBsJTZG2mP3ZvA+WROD6ZLsr+bIgdjX+lq5XEpZx1nIlQ7xFdBL1Bpr5Qql 7rWrY9tX/Lb3vQIiKlWn+C4TWhTEUz1qiPGgx3tgkLoiAQiq4qxGRZH4LXSO4jZhnx/g ItrlIxubFD1jJ/bXiKGda0HAoaBO+2dhiIk1o= Received: by 10.151.108.13 with SMTP id k13mr1762496ybm.86.1229118121296; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?70.10.7.34? ([70.10.7.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p33sm4697093elf.8.2008.12.12.13.41.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:41:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4942DA9E.3070901@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:41:50 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Whalen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081211190951.GB845@comcast.net> <20081211113257.405a082c@gom.home> <20081211202023.GC845@comcast.net> <20081211134622.15c81ecd@gom.home> <20081212002813.GD32300@kokopelli.hydra> <20081211170011.777236f8@gom.home> <20081212015814.GB32982@kokopelli.hydra> <20081211215036.526b2cad@gom.home> <20081212181148.GD36348@kokopelli.hydra> <20081212110745.7657ff59@gom.home> <20081212211111.GD37185@kokopelli.hydra> <4942D5C0.9060307@gmail.com> <4942D70C.7030505@brianwhalen.net> <4942D829.4080705@gmail.com> <4942D918.7060403@brianwhalen.net> In-Reply-To: <4942D918.7060403@brianwhalen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:42:02 -0000 Brian Whalen wrote: > michael wrote: >> >> >> Brian Whalen wrote: >>> michael wrote: >>>> has anyone stopped at all during this discussion and considered >>>> what you're arguing about? you're all complaining about a SERVER os >>>> that doesn't have an nvidia driver for its 64bit implementation and >>>> Wojciech. >>>> I mean seriously, has this helped anything at all? is ranting on >>>> here about those two things going to change 8.0 to be the next best >>>> gaming console? no. if you want to use freebsd on your desktop with >>>> 3D you can. just run i386. but this entire thread has gone down >>>> hill from the OP, and it is nonsense. you get a few more registers >>>> with 64bit and some more ram, big deal. show me a gaming console >>>> that needs more than four gigs of ram. its not a priority and it >>>> shouldn't be. this is a server class operating system that you CAN >>>> use on your desk if wanted. even linux in all its glory with an >>>> nvidia 64bit driver isn't all that great at gaming, i'm sorry its >>>> just not. its not that great with 3D modeling either(in house and >>>> proprietary software like maya do not count). >>> >>> It is a great server OS. Perhaps some would like it to be a better >>> desktop OS? PC BSD not good enough for some I suppose? You could >>> always get a Mac and run the NIX underneath it when needed. >> apparently that isn't an option. i see this all the time in the free >> os market. i want, i want, i want, i want. hello, there are limited >> developers and they actually have lives outside of freebsd. >>> >>> Brian >>> Decide what problem you want to solve, and then get the best tool >>> for that problem >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > no doubt, unless we get the multimillion dollar donation like ibm did > for linux, it is what it is. I like it, it works for me, but I really > can't do more than ask for things since I don't write code. I do QA > work, that is about as close as I get. > > Brian that would be possible if freebsd ran a bit better on power or powerpc based machines. would also help if it had 15 trillion monkey developers like linux. i can't even get freebsd running on a ppc card in a power server.