From owner-freebsd-chat Tue May 29 10:41:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813A237B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f4THfkR53180 ; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:41:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id TAA28502 ; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:42:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:42:24 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Brett Glass Cc: Chris Moline , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The desktop apathy Message-ID: <20010529194223.P3636@lpt.ens.fr> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010528020324.0487b570@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010527082742.049003f0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010527082742.049003f0@localhost> <20010527172838.A11174@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010528020324.0487b570@localhost> <20010528140153.A58103@h24-67-61-12.lb.shawcable.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20010528153532.0488ac10@localhost> <20010529112302.A3636@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010529112012.052768c0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010529112012.052768c0@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:21:39AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass said on May 29, 2001 at 11:21:39: > At 03:23 AM 5/29/2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > >The problem is the > >applicationss, and it's not really a lack of applications either -- > >just a lack of the sort of applications people are used to in the > >windows world. And even here, KDE has covered a *huge* amount of > >ground in the last 18 months (KOffice, Konqueror, Kmail, etc) -- and > >they've now declared that all their infrastructure is in place, > > They're all GPLed. I don't care. Rather, I'm quite happy with that. If I were writing a commercial quality word processor for free, the GPL is the licence I'd choose. > This means that there will be little or no > other development for the platform in their product categories, > because -- thanks to the GPL's nastiness -- they will kill the > market. Commercial developers will avoid the platform and it > will languish. Commercial developers may avoid the platform (they would avoid it even more if KDE, Gnome, and other GPL stuff never existed and our only option was FVWM). But it won't languish. That's my point. Would you rather pay $5000 per seat or whatever it was for crap like CDE? That's where we'd be if the GPL'd alternatives didn't exist. Or more likely, we'd have nothing. commercial people were not falling over each other to develop for FreeBSD three years ago, when the GPL'd desktop projects barely existed, and there's no reason to believe they're excited about this market now. - Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message