From nobody Thu Nov 7 22:57:45 2024 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XkyCP1CXjz5cnDS for ; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 22:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [66.165.241.226]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XkyCN1tTrz4JTh for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=nomadlogic.org header.s=04242021 header.b=zSwojg+B; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pete@nomadlogic.org designates 66.165.241.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pete@nomadlogic.org; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=nomadlogic.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nomadlogic.org; s=04242021; t=1731020230; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=fF5s62W5eZEpBA6LwLTGrK6W20qdlH8dsZ/7Jd0GsxA=; b=zSwojg+BBh2Yt/BzVvzVBkkaqczZJtSKaSTRyNKa8IWQ6p8FLR6HZsYOh5AvDQJuvSen7m wpuchAZW2+cCTerh38GT/MetCNKJeLikQUMu7y4q/PNidfzkoH5xL0x4hqc8BeFbMJWRLu 9shzvvgvSFm/RYQS6nlsQUusyGnYzzk= Received: from [192.168.1.160] ( [47.154.20.141]) by mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 1d675feb (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO) for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <58157db8-7af9-41cd-9fa1-5f9677878f89@nomadlogic.org> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 14:57:45 -0800 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Firefox and Thunderbird freeze system causing a reboot To: stable@freebsd.org References: <087cf5ee-186a-41ee-93ed-154588964d41@smo.de> Content-Language: en-US From: Pete Wright In-Reply-To: <087cf5ee-186a-41ee-93ed-154588964d41@smo.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[nomadlogic.org,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[nomadlogic.org:s=04242021]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29802, ipnet:66.165.240.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[nomadlogic.org:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XkyCN1tTrz4JTh X-Spamd-Bar: --- On 11/7/24 14:19, Philipp Ost wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a curious situation with my system since updating to 14.2-STABLE on > Tuesday, 5.11.'24: both Firefox and Thunderbird cause the system to freeze > which then triggers and automatic reboot. This doesn't happen immediately, > though. It takes at most 2:15 minutes until this freeze and reboot cycle > happens. No user-interaction is taking place during that time. > > The machine is running FreeBSD 14.2-STABLE stable/14-n269500- > cdffbea57c0d amd64. > Firefox is at version firefox-132.0.1_2,2 and Thunderbird at > thunderbird-128.4.1_1. > > Other gtk3-based programs do not show this behaviour, i.e., Inkscape, > Darktable, GIMP, EOG, Filezilla, Gnumeric. > > I (re-)built both Firefox and Thunderbird with debugging symbols. Console > output of both Firefox and Thunderbird (when being started from an xterm) > can be found here: > philippost.de/firefox-debug-console-output > philippost.de/thunderbird-debug-console-output > > In addition, I tried running them under truss(1), but from skimming through > both logs nothing immediately stood out at what could cause this. > > Also, there's nothing to be found in the logs at all. > > Did anyone else observed this? How do I go about debugging this? > > I am at a loss at how to proceed and appreaciate any help in trying to > figure this out. I use both firefox and thunderbird pretty heavily on my workstation (14.1) and laptop (current) and have not had any issues. a couple thoughts though to help you debug this: 1. maybe run a memory test and check the SMART status of your disk(s). i've seen behavior like this with flaky hardware in the past, and both of those apps are extremely memory hungry 2. are you getting core's after rebuilding debug builds? if so what does backtrace show? 3. is this a low memory system? when i was debugging a memory leak in firefox a while ago i wrote a wrapper that invoked it via limits(1). -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org