From nobody Tue Nov 18 01:59:36 2025 X-Original-To: arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4d9SV829t0z6HP34 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2025 01:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minsoochoo0122@proton.me) Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch (mail-4325.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.25]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4d9SV75xJFz3NSR; Tue, 18 Nov 2025 01:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minsoochoo0122@proton.me) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=jjqkjk7vf5ffha42ry6hwssb6i.protonmail; t=1763431179; x=1763690379; bh=9GS56SNskw5Rci6uyo3Z2VBDesDq14ZXdwc8oFnaK3E=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=g1p96CIRx+Hz1Z2OegXe77U6YWOJ+Rp1SlGs3PoprlvNtMiHz5DJHIorNyYuuxS45 Eo2t4WN2iGLvkJy5pT58V34dEGHjWP1YX3hmr6jAjwrdFvNQMgecyCENE9jTEi+But D3gcs4PB2jNwW42oEGw1LWtkuDakoeaVFdSPj0jXkmc3UgL8Hj/2ISccECDGq4uzio fmYhrREzFqcjNqVPr8IyAC9We7fvvWPVvG4TkQ70LNrv39fcYjP+l1T+nGkVIYf1vV qyrrDeGKt/GWcpMvxN/w05VuUFlrH7UPCcBBBlHA9dEJEeF2Fs+xoWPFgHkpLWYojg P9hrRtaToMLkA== Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 01:59:36 +0000 To: Minsoo Choo From: Minsoo Choo Cc: John Baldwin , arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Future of armv7 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <8aa378a1-94fb-4cb1-9bca-8e68eb8e0938@FreeBSD.org> Feedback-ID: 45891198:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 90f47f833c10fc5d81dcae943571f7a01aa44ade List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.43.0/24, country:CH] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4d9SV75xJFz3NSR On Monday, November 17th, 2025 at 8:56 PM, Minsoo Choo wrote: > - Usage of armv7 hardwares have been quickly dwindling in the past few ye= ars. Since I started studying in univeristy, the only armv7 I've seen is AR= M Cortex-M for old stm32 courses. Even including Cortex-M, I don't see anyo= ne around me who uses armv7 in their project or work. stable/15 will give 3= more years of support for armv7, and I expect that people will use armv7 d= ramatically less by then. I meant four years (stable/15 EOL in December 2029), not three. And I'm pre= tty sure that armv7 will be used even more less in four years.