From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 22 19:15:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7866716A41F for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:15:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF49243D53 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:15:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from ironport.bredband.com ([195.54.107.82] [195.54.107.82]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20051222191529.URER4422.mxfep01.bredband.com@ironport.bredband.com> for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:15:29 +0100 Received: from c-9a0471d5.019-61-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO moria.endor.swagman.org) ([213.113.4.154]) by ironport.bredband.com with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2005 20:16:16 +0100 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,285,1131318000"; d="scan'208"; a="21309690:sNHT49202541" Received: from rivendell (rivendell.endor.swagman.org [192.168.10.10]) by moria.endor.swagman.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E5DE1141A; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:13:50 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <019101c6072c$1ac39aa0$0a0aa8c0@endor.swagman.org> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <43A9A240.9070709@wcborstel.nl> <200512221719.53755.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:15:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Cc: Sasa Stupar Subject: Re: KDE - how to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:15:49 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sasa Stupar" To: "RW" ; Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: Re: KDE - how to? > > > --On 22. december 2005 17:19 +0000 RW > wrote: > >> Are you in the wheel group? >> _______________________________________________ > > No, I am not in wheel group. I thought I could su if I am not in the > wheel group (well, at least I can do it on linux) but I am learning > FreeBSD slowly. You _must_ be in the wheel group to be able to su in any case. Linux people see whole wheel group and root as a bad thing for anarchistic society, BSD folks like the additional layer of security - One has to crack wheel group users password or account in order to get root in a machine using su. > BUt why it won't let me log in as root? As I have read if the > following line has secure written then root logins are allowed: > ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/kdm" xterm on secure > or have I missaunderstood this? Secure means that root can login from these terminals directly (insecure terminals enforce the login as regular user then su:ing). -Reko