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Date:      Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:38:07 +0100
From:      RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Hardware potential to duplicate existing host keys... RSA DSA ECDSA was Add rc.conf variables...
Message-ID:  <20120625223807.4dbeb91d@gumby.homeunix.com>
In-Reply-To: <86pq8nxtjp.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:09:14 +0200
Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote:

> RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com> writes:
> > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav <des@des.no> writes:
> > > You do know that these keys are used only for authentication, and
> > > not for encryption, right?
> > I'm not very familiar with ssh, but surely they're also used for
> > session-key exchange, which makes them crucial to encryption. They
> > should be as secure as the strongest symmetric cipher they need to
> > work with.
>=20
> No.  They are used for authentication only.  This is crypto 101.

It also generates a shared secret for key exchange, which is pretty
much what I said.

> Having a copy of the host key allows you to do one thing and one thing
> only: impersonate the server.  It does not allow you to eavesdrop on
> an already-established connection.

It enables you to eavesdrop on new connections, and  eavesdroppers
are often in a position to force reconnection on old ones.

> If the server is set up to require key-based user authentication, an
> attacker would also have to obtain the user's key to mount an
> effective man-in-the-middle attack.

If an attacker is only interested in a specific client, it may not be
any harder to break the second public key, than the first one.=20



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