From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Apr 4 22:31:06 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECED5B8C8E for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 22:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from mail-oi1-x22b.google.com (mail-oi1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FD7mT1Njmz4bD8 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 22:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by mail-oi1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id k25so10128830oic.4 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 15:31:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chen-org-nz.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2yBocXj1nt5/RQBpONkzoc25jyRxhEdT1mGzLpEsgTA=; b=k+u2aJdcmSX24BO4lIhHbsecRSm/gOveNtNtvwhHBLNyglj5l9Axhp+RJ/Ecs8pJ3r KUv204/SyvNxpBja9ia5sBQT/X8tJAVGCmW8kSsmEg1ETGdRPOgVQnqk1gT1Z0UcBmIR VULL9qrQpkm+p6YmnX8t71eEdwsY+wMVceml7DiJ7N3v13hXCOqowRSAHlek2nCiW2+D GfL1WdCPHApokLoqXHvOMKdl9lKRY1hMDZHHKZU3DCk0QOcuseaMgbEdr7C0Cd86F1Gn ACPPTJLZmhuAGRQXh7nI2/bGfIfzI53pzBnG6deLrT0lMbBf5e4gep1kqPLwokdqol02 MU6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2yBocXj1nt5/RQBpONkzoc25jyRxhEdT1mGzLpEsgTA=; b=XsNSuGXj8g407kmsv74LkZUWepnALr1E1z6wXzOYJXnXnI0opywNFu290gusYBVxDn KEfyZ2869UTTJuy2GXriG8IogPCWCPKjdwGmT0mVNUauQBlDVZ6HXzzdgtypu/Gy8tgb xpLm+kSA2qh0Gm9IS87XsUQ5VIVsxNqpDTe7gFB71eR1V6ofwIxWDe1XULALSKrIwA43 5z6p4Ol6aiVkQtkMRteaPs5C6NZLXKK6hJ95XlgxhEZe0l3xkrexJUAvzdxKMJWJdBx9 dXKdoIjggDDIEi2f5vks3SB/MJ0OKyIMlM625KiLnlG1vrGmFEYC0tIcljcjcABbGUXG kyxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530yO+q+gMyI3GAb0SlNM7D8cETBDbozpMf6klMSU0HS2ZrVMA8J qK2X9XifC6BJL8OG5dh7KwlNE7qoagMi1FLi66rhOA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy+fiMwgWO0Vis/+dgQCMRrRBlCCPrbipLv4yRNeAWnr8DbTgufOLcq6MOFWzpiaGVZdDVjSz+faOY0vdnV/Ro= X-Received: by 2002:aca:2106:: with SMTP id 6mr16273256oiz.150.1617575463733; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 15:31:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jonathan Chen Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 10:30:48 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? To: Ed Maste Cc: freebsd-stable stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FD7mT1Njmz4bD8 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=chen-org-nz.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=k+u2aJdc; dmarc=none; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b is neither permitted nor denied by domain of jonc@chen.org.nz) smtp.mailfrom=jonc@chen.org.nz X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[chen-org-nz.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[chen.org.nz]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[chen-org-nz.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 22:31:06 -0000 On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 08:40, Ed Maste wrote: > > I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system > before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447 > (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page. > I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but it dropped > off my list. FTP is not nearly as relevant now as it once was, and it > had a security vulnerability that secteam had to address. I vote for leaving it on the system. I have a small basic system on a portable hard drive; no installed ports. Just enough to carry in a USB key, and to plug into any computer on a network. Having FTP out-of-the-box makes the system usable as a server immediately without having to search around for an ftp-package. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen