From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Feb 21 16:24:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E58F37B401 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net (lakemtao04.cox.net [68.1.17.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61B843FEA for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:24:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tech_info@threespace.com) Received: from vwinxp.threespace.com ([68.11.249.216]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030222002434.JYGC22825.lakemtao04.cox.net@vwinxp.threespace.com> for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:24:34 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030221181620.01b7ded8@threespace.com> X-Sender: tech@threespace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:25:13 -0600 To: FreeBSD Chat From: Chip Morton Subject: Re: was this really necessary? [ was Re: The FreeBSD Jive Copyright ] In-Reply-To: <3E564549.2DCD3E1F@emailrob.com> References: <00bc01c2d93e$452d1f60$0502000a@sentinel> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have to second this one. I don't believe any malice was intended, but I don't think Stacy fully considered others' perspectives before this e-mail was sent. At 09:27 AM 2/21/2003, rob spellberg wrote: >as i look back on decisions i have made in my life, > i sometimes find that they can only be explained > by resorting to the phrase: > > "it seemed like a good idea at the time." > >my strongly libertarian bent compels me to state that > if you want to circulate this sort of thing --privately-- > among like-minded persons, then go ahead; > SCOTUS-considered concepts like "inciting a panic" and > "fighting words" notwithstanding. > >however, i question the appropriateness of > posting this type of your humor [ fsdo humor ] > on a public forum such as -chat. > >my concerns are several [ in no particular order of importance ]: > > a] the accusation "elitist" has been discussed extensively and > has recently appeared in another topic. > this one is bad enough; do we want any others? > > b] this now goes into the archives, where, imho, > it takes on the characteristics of > a bomb with a delayed action fuse. > because the subject line includes "copyright", > a person researching things like licensing, etc., > may find this. > this type of person usually has a legal mindset > [ at least, partially ]. > a fraction of this group of people are, > what i call, "professional plaintiffs". > they look for opportunities to be offended > so that they can then play "lawsuit lottery". > these people are not to be encouraged. > > c] related to [b], a person with decision-making authority > may decide that prudence requires the removal of this > entire thread from the archive. > personally, i do not know if the precedent exists, > but it is a dangerous one to set, > even when the original reason is considered "good", > which it usually is. > precedents tend to be invoked. > >iirc, you are held in high regard by, at least, some on this list > for other reasons, technical or organizational. >i don't remember exactly, i will have to research this point. > >i could be wrong, but i don't think this enhances your CV. > >rob spellberg > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message