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Date:      Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:18:05 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Marius Bendiksen <mbendiks@eunet.no>
To:        Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        freeBSD-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: disable write caching with softupdates? 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.10009221614370.48894-100000@login-1.eunet.no>
In-Reply-To: <200009211932.MAA01341@mass.osd.bsdi.com>

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> Not really.  You link "real" geometries with "all the stuff FFS does to 
> exploit it".  FFS' attempts to "exploit" drive geometry are intentionally 
> disabled because they don't work.  As was pointed out by another poster, 
> unless you have a good drive access model in the time domain, these 
> optimisations are typically pessimisations anyway. 

This fault was ceded in a later post, as I recall. FFS currently does not
handle sufficiently complex geometric parameters that exposing the real
ones would make an improvement. I do think it likely that someone would
step forth and implement this properly, though, if an interface should
become available to obtain such information, and, if we had realtime
ability with fine grained timing.

> > And this still relies on having the drive provide the correct information,
> > including such things as temperature, air moisture levels, or whatever.
> > This, as you pointed out, is not reported by disk drives.
> 
> I think ultimately we're in more or less violent agreement. 8)

Highly likely. Let's not get further into this. I will, and have, ceded
the point that there are other optimizations that take precedence over
the geometric ones.

Marius



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