From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Mar 14 01:33:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2392AD01C9 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B574135A for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B0DC0AD01C8; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06F3AD01C7 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22a.google.com (mail-io0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E04E357; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id n190so206285523iof.0; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:33:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=f14sSNEnYgt1q+yRDo2HQhVIRVyAXwpiE7c9gpsiGvs=; b=EFcXYCVEslUdbMfUJ0eh6+fdkN7Knu6cj2KPOvXUB2u2KsUV69P024gBDJ2+QmAo/Z X2g9B4XD1hZEWPYvJ1vnaXk/gkiRSvDjwcm0H2HADRwp3WsNQWWUMgAEsilWTPPzfaKd LDmlBMR4WiG0QYw7APAq6B/NjFKsMXEfX19Lwe0KGHI/ANHf3w+lEL9er0iJ0+7pEfCN WpJRL9/PPgd3K+t1dLqx7C+HxiYw+2UWY7ckFOgZQfLjVlWP6gIuhQCYcAS9Ro+CwqNa hl+BlYzbnKTiUO+yfZLd9b13hrGCYH9gXntwtvQLHxHCc4WqM5zzVvKzMs76QqaR73wl WqpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=f14sSNEnYgt1q+yRDo2HQhVIRVyAXwpiE7c9gpsiGvs=; b=BErSOh9bQIcrJT9lYd4RJXj6alIRntojJqLZkPoqn91fcqtQO6LpXwyCSa8yDjiHCn kW/oSZzA+RPRUA8c/WC5aDVrfF4FWHRDoA4g3VNrAAWW62ccAj3IXni9n1E58Zsg+LmQ hNK3ecqdpK3y5yLshPRX9TQN42kJ7/6nn4s4/pXT0UfR9Rd4rbNGU8CVu6cb63Gxcu7I 8Ghxr9Pv0FIQ1D9hXGkIdjSyhq6aivSU0RCdiFkYpFj/6lRv+yjDAaFsk39ntg2P0YEN LNUEuOcZ/Yjc9THdmfUmBKg7izzgtFR26KinZj3KdGgaph3LgLVlbA0VQj4YOIg6Xu5V bjPw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJEOfRS2rMGLZFBHFJlZk4ro5pq7wLqCcoCBT20S6K1Dol6nDh5jxCJWUnIut74hf6mHNGoOrQrlUVXXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.19.73 with SMTP id b70mr20717302ioj.75.1457919226611; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.14.19 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:33:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160314013319.GA68039@wkstn-mjohnston.west.isilon.com> References: <20160312093835.727d7197@ernst.home> <20160314013319.GA68039@wkstn-mjohnston.west.isilon.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:33:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to recycle Inact memory more aggressively? From: Adrian Chadd To: Mark Johnston Cc: Gary Jennejohn , "current@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:33:47 -0000 Hi, I can reproduce this by doing a mkimage on a large destination file image. it looks like it causes all the desktop processes to get paged out whilst it's doing so, and then the whole UI freezes until it catches up. I'll poke alc and others to see if I can figure out how to trace what's going on. eg, are we running out of free pages and instead of waiting, deciding we're okay just paging out binaries/libraries so we can issue more dirty write io.. -a