From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 26 10:37:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E7C16A4CE; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from kientzle.com (h-66-166-149-50.SNVACAID.covad.net [66.166.149.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A5543FDF; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kientzle@acm.org) Received: from acm.org ([66.166.149.54]) by kientzle.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQIbpkX057585; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kientzle@acm.org) Message-ID: <3FC4F2FC.6080905@acm.org> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:37:48 -0800 From: Tim Kientzle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031006 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <3FBE8D92.6080205@acm.org> <20031123012222.GB11523@dragon.nuxi.com> <20031123042635.GB677@saboteur.dek.spc.org> <3FC16644.7070005@acm.org> <20031124114006.GA60761@dragon.nuxi.com> <3FC2655A.8080202@acm.org> <20031124224030.GB67578@dragon.nuxi.com> <3FC298E9.1050000@acm.org> <20031126025954.GC56876@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20031126025954.GC56876@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kientzle@acm.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:37:52 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > ... lets agree that the FTP client will be > the last thing added to /rescue that is outside the original charter. I sincerely hope it will be. Mostly because I have a large chunk of new code to contribute that's broken and sitting in pieces all over my hard disk at the moment. (Working out APIs for new libraries is not a simple task. ) I don't have a lot of time for FreeBSD hacking, and this thread has consumed a rather sizable percentage of it. > If we're going to add an FTP client, lets pick the one with the best > functionality for the job -- /usr/bin/ftp. I may not know the complete > URL to the bits I need, and if so with fetch you're still screwed. On the other hand, /usr/bin/ftp also has drawbacks: It requires ncurses (one reason I am interested in dropping vi is to shed the ncurses library and the need for a termcap file), it's considerably larger than fetch, and it doesn't support HTTP. But you are right that if you need to get a file from somewhere, you probably don't already know the exact location of that file, and ftp's browsing ability would be very useful then. Harumph .... It's a very good suggestion; I'll have to get back to you on it. Tim