From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 19:00:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CA516A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:00:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E8A43D1F for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2330FUA081467; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 05:00:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from localhost (narvi@localhost)i2330FrK081464; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 05:00:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 05:00:15 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: "Scott I. Remick" In-Reply-To: <20040301210843.64256.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040303045758.S79809@haldjas.folklore.ee> References: <20040301210843.64256.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on haldjas.folklore.ee cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: my thoughts on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 03:00:44 -0000 On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Scott I. Remick wrote: > > --- Matt Jarjoura wrote: > > > A) RedHat and SUSE both have GUI installers. -- Honestly, how > > important is it that FreeBSD remain a TUI-only menu based > > installation-?? Sure it's simple, but screen-shots of it sure don't > > appear appetizing to ISPs in a 2 week window. > > Actually, it's important for 3 reasons: > > 1) Compatibility. You can't even depend on 640x480 working on every piece of > hardware you might wish to install FreeBSD on. Some embedded applications > can't do any graphics. > this is not an argument against GUI installer, but simply keeping another way open. > 2) Speed. I'm still rather green w/ FreeBSD compared to many, but I can fly > through the FreeBSD setup in just a few mins. > you could teh same with a gui installer on anything - gui speed is really unliekly to be an issue. > 3) Old cruft. Apparently a lot of people are too scared of the whole > ncurses/sysinstall beast to dare revamping it. It works, and it's > tried-and-tested. It's easier and safer to make minor modifications to > support new versions than to overhaul it. > This is a very good reason for killing it.