From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 21:47:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668F8106564A for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCCC8FC0C for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 6682 invoked by uid 399); 24 Mar 2009 21:47:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.24?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 24 Mar 2009 21:47:31 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <49C954F0.8050803@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:47:28 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marco.broeder@gmx.eu References: <49C9256C.2040900@telenix.org> <200903242202.28054.marco.broeder@gmx.eu> In-Reply-To: <200903242202.28054.marco.broeder@gmx.eu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Sticky Bit , Chuck Robey , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qt4 ports descriptions X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:47:38 -0000 Marco Bröder wrote: > On Tue March 24 2009 19:24:44 Chuck Robey wrote: > >> OTOH, the KDE folks deserve an attaboy for NOT doing this to folks. > > Please post your insults somewhere else but not here! Do not spam the > mailing lists with such a nonsense! Marco, I think you misunderstood what Chuck said. The term "attaboy" is an English colloquialism that means roughly "congratulations for a job well done." What Chuck is saying is that the kde maintainers should be congratulated for adding appropriate pkg-descr files to the ports they maintain. > You actually have a very annoying and insulting attitude in several of your > mails! This time I cannot ignore it anymore because such an attitude makes > me very angry ... :-( While you certainly have the right to your opinion, it's probably better if personal problems are handled personally, rather than on the lists. > Otherwise please do not spam the mailing lists! It is extremely annoying if > someone writes unqualified rants about something but actually do not > contribute anything or even have any clue at all about it. There is a fine line here between a user identifying a problem and reporting it to the list (which is totally legitimate) and someone who is asking others to do work they are unwilling to do. I don't know the situation here well enough to judge, but if it's true that there are a large number of ports with duplicate and/or inappropriate pkg-descr files then reporting it is reasonable; if for no other reason than because it may spur someone who does have time to pick up the project. It's also worthwhile to point out problems (especially widespread ones) so that those who are learning to write/maintain ports themselves don't pick up on bad habits. Like I said above, there is a fine line here, but it doesn't appear to me that Chuck has crossed it. (At least not this time.) :) hope this helps, Doug