From nobody Mon Nov 7 14:04:13 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N5XzG62pKz4h4XX for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2022 14:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4f60000e75563.c715cc5fe02236e70cbec351d88528da@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4N5XzG0KMWz3RDy for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2022 14:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4f60000e75563.c715cc5fe02236e70cbec351d88528da@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1667829866; x=1670421866; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=G9AoiGYhGkqa/WUz/57P92sOEJw1sDG2UuIa8MGnXzY=; b=WVAsC8djV7RlJqlsFy2GJWvJKv0N4d6ccYCw24vEk/r4OjwO2Up+hBwAwq2tmdCY1boYrzqDpPoSiPUELL2raTGyxUn3wauytW71ydEAaDBVf1r9GOU0hjJ2n+qxs7wv9ZUgvtByN18P/F7AeaHMS2b77lNeCu45H6GCMI3vm+Q= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRmNjAwMDBlNzU1NjMucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r2.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.189.2]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 7 Nov 2022 09:04:15 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 7 Nov 2022 09:04:14 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1os2jV-0006Tg-F2; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 14:04:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 14:04:13 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Michael Schuster Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Posting Style Message-Id: <20221107140413.4812551865f473cfc4a993d5@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20221106222404.ew2xhposne7aesvw@freebsd> <20221107131823.67c957cadb4bd11a4d00ba03@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4N5XzG0KMWz3RDy X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=WVAsC8dj; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4f60000e75563.c715cc5fe02236e70cbec351d88528da@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4f60000e75563.c715cc5fe02236e70cbec351d88528da@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4f60000e75563.c715cc5fe02236e70cbec351d88528da@email-od.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4f60000e75563.c715cc5fe02236e70cbec351d88528da@email-od.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.189.2:received]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 14:29:09 +0100 Michael Schuster wrote: > I think about it this way: if you have two (or a very small number of) > people involved in a conversation from the beginning, top-posting > may(!) make sense, because everyone involved is at the same "place", The place where top posting makes most sense is the corporate environment where an email thread starts with two (or more) people and as discussion goes on more people are added to weigh in with their thoughts. Done right it looks a bit like this when it arrives in the unsuspecting Fiona's inbox, complete with all the context she needs to see what's going on. She just has to read it message by message from bottom to top. To: Andy, Bernice, Charlie, Diane Cc: Fiona Oh ye gods Charlie you've got it all backwards for the new way of doing things. Fiona didn't we publicise this ? Andy you need to do . I'm going to give a talk on the new system, it seems nobody reads the docs. Eddy. A little while ago Diane wrote: To: Andy, Bernice, Charlie Cc: Eddy I passed that project on to Eddy. Diane. Shortly before Charlie wrote: To: Bernice, Andy Cc: Diane Hey Diane please comment on and my I worked on for a bit and I think but Diane has reworked the whole thing since and it'd be best to check with her. Charlie. Even earlier Bernice wrote: To: Andy Cc: Charlie Hey Charlie could you comment on Sure I know a bit about it and but Charlie is the one who knows most about which matters a lot in Bernice. Once upon a time Andy wrote: To: Bernice Hey Bernice I have this problem I think you can help with -- Steve O'Hara-Smith Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/