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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 6cdd05e474dd2d0f263d17271b9f2e88; Thu, 18 Sep 2025 03:44:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: An idea for some future point : provide for FreeBSD-kernel-generic-debug installs to help debug 15.?-RELEASE problems without software builds Message-Id: <04605C89-2F7E-410C-862B-B7FEDD5E6A93@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 20:44:03 -0700 To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) References: <04605C89-2F7E-410C-862B-B7FEDD5E6A93.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.84:from]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.84:from]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cS1hw33Mfz48sv [I well realize the the below idea does not fit with the 15.0-RELEASE schedule. I'm thinking longer term.] https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ has *.pkg for various kernels, one also in some *.iso and *.img distributions, here showing ALPHA2 notation, just for illustration: FreeBSD-kernel-generic-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-generic-dbg-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg Note: The above pair is in the likes of *boot1.iso* *dvd1.iso* and *memstick.img* . The below 2 pairs are not. FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-dbg-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-dbg-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg The idea is to at some point start to enable users gathering debug information to some degree using a pre-built pkgbase GENERIC-DEBUG kernel that they could pkg install and then use via a reboot: FreeBSD-kernel-generic-debug-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-generic-debug-dbg-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg ( Based on same /usr/src/sy/s and /usr/src/ code as the matching: FreeBSD-kernel-generic{,-dbg} .) Thus it would not be necessary for someone to build a kernel.GENERIC-DEBUG kernel to see if such a kernel would report something interesting related to some problem that was happening. This is biased to preliminary information that does not involve needing to be based on adjusted source code. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com