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To: Olivier Certner , Xin LI Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org References: <202505040750.5447oQWq012045@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <5049201.M427ezpTYi@ravel> Content-Language: en-US, de-DE From: Harry Schmalzbauer Autocrypt: addr=h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de; keydata= xsDNBGYAIiYBDAC60wPttMw9ESCW1NCayghEHYqdBb0tTQpwzPEidSAEwLYUceWznTKOoBub vqRT4MjkFhVitEVSsx0c9isq75w5PuKr8XHwxvne1nDAuRQZxDWlhimTkPago7zC+X4dKUBb 8+3gWV8WCyno8nsdlf3VvO/GeagX4l4SR9msiQM3XZIDfoqIXMeMF8Z85COdtcQf6JxGHmm3 //X0Z4FbhvUMEXWHOVFigyUippvQa95T3k5fUoZAdhcve+4p/XasIdexpPHCKGWXm/dpGzpm edMN0hUlBSgtjdRfgfDsQGwaPmSYsRBMOoHat7DuEhvFMSY3qE7KU7kEvrUwU420b6iuOROp JNFbIMAqozwEd0IqM4dGQqoxRyDMP/yh10Juy/E/fNTYS8OIbR7JXStXhlBf+B2qTAE0JkDD nhwiHmaMweV6BVhvCfK8nT2pmyKfBSfSMD3gUzLQaq4WQinEz5WSQSWBdYPWYsquVNr+DwpT NmOcYRD7CSKmvojMC1ThqxEAEQEAAc0vSGFyYWxkIFNjaG1hbHpiYXVlciA8aC5zY2htYWx6 YmF1ZXJAb21uaWxhbi5kZT7CwQ0EEwEIADcWIQTjKgWHwF1RpC5MiPNOp16HIeNrLQUCZgAi JgUJBaOagAIbAwQLCQgHBRUICQoLBRYCAwEAAAoJEE6nXoch42st1+EMALbSpQeb11yc95u8 5sbK03jFey4hBf1EZpRpDEFhxLk1uVzr2plrpf4OZw571p6BI5K2GnoMSlzQF1RNUmVqz0zk iJgJmc338oO0+u5xKuf39O8e2JsOuIalOgUEOg5BBqZvVZHivDxjLQ1genVTHZgr2LQE327Z iNvRiQ04JMhlbxGKqpp0YcXLhQ5wwxvjq7+057KB9G4opycpKlRzWkykEKhbVOm5hd7HxTZh +G7QNsEdk0Tkjpt8MKvEZut036Xeo2AlJnoVySJcsGJgDeKngRxbuxwoZ9y6almAvcAXMht3 WRtgk8HWv0KeX9kqvMcZ8nZcoK+TQnXHjKNfVq7pvggmju6d6sFetteGGwpMrKnpXeDZ79GW bjUHFSQNJtJO04KaLrpj4aW+bcACoscUhRjkUVpMXvaSY6i4RVx4Ji9o8CZIEoPD63ii60/4 HDo2H+kLXI3mVOfVhjmfBOmF7nLDt69ZBiXtGKZTV2G0fKLV4ygAV8Zgci2y26q5yc7AzQRm ACInAQwA7JCRsBaHiTGAZ2WxyG3QKOaZuStQ9RIL4m+l3bfIdS6sXJ3skdE7u5r36PKrU2gX QdMmC6c1oN43RpwVZour2xF1Z6HekDkGeN5c8XjKjCbBejVnn6BwHEzvxs+zimIx80uW2iEo cCzB0zA7ItetFTheyZcIYSfu7ZJb48HNFV+43VPDsr/jUY0BbQFGacioEE6UB+nwZSqDVmrw rI574qffBK9Fj9MNO80wiMTK4qS5nviaDU/OKxfs1t5UyoYW3ZxTXLP4xORiJFLBbjovVKhM +5JrUS5TK0tL0N6j2YcMWtJqL8OvuCuczZsUOezFI5Z3RTkQDcGydquj+JlR5pVV94P02M19 KYDLs5ZA4m69aOFTTjl2JvWOPJ037aWNpLFcBJ0h1LBkUel4Z7HSa6WJ+c6iUtD0lVMfxJlT cGBRXzq/0SMn6QVNC1qrBMTN1bVDkrIkCYmTqohMvCW0SUg5K4R8RDG1ruGSqj5LXwAeSZ43 Zns6UhJ80Im1QxhTABEBAAHCwPwEGAEIACYWIQTjKgWHwF1RpC5MiPNOp16HIeNrLQUCZgAi JwUJBaOagAIbDAAKCRBOp16HIeNrLeAQC/98l0xG48cPQ825wCADmR4juIiEqeU/KfZyR2zW GoHHb6rBJth2tU4JAv2TayHT+jYhioo6a1rhxlYfZeVKlCK+toEnJ+usnd0hJ+rwffURWdef uDwKAqvSavWVVDQ07gjlQjgTIiStn+PJ4jvH6YaLroH9aStADje730BqgWwq9BzO45V0GEoM DqF+xtTATDSPkhopcA2n05qeXLJ6/2FAsPjFfHGUr92Gw4wEWOm0wkoGRnRSxpF0ectRNmXk d0Z8JA0hY+XIzXYr9lTJo89CUdx/ppkkKC3mB8E8H7vGCaOim1nGCjTZ6hJ5lAv4Np/Xlzng kT6+wWnWa5j5VXyZykvr+y1JzIFpiDdy9TpmsJBeAbF80UBur2CuXQNxPhRHJyXAxZe2Q0A+ tQgHN6uOjW8Bp9nQdOy4y55FfUMoN9nbdeNNLq7qhTv6GmOQ2PUupocn4YOskKZJn3PXJ18S YNz7MneVch+fUKhJS+DIXkNvInWH/sZBGlBTK0A+Bp4= Organization: OmniLAN In-Reply-To: <5049201.M427ezpTYi@ravel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Zt29s2psgz3jrF X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On 2025-05-07 18:38, Olivier Certner wrote: > Hi Xin and all, > >> (snip) >> Historically, newsyslog compressed rotated log files to save disk space. >> This was helpful when storage was limited. However, with modern files >> systems like ZFS providing built-in compression and with larger disks >> now common, the benefits of additional log compression have diminished, >> especially given the inconvenience of needing to decompress logs when >> searching for specific patterns. >> (snip) > ... > In absence of more elements, I thus stand by the same conclusion as one year ago: The sensible default is to enable compression (for files marked as compressible), and for POLA it is probably to stay with 'legacy', so that compression letters actually mandate the desired compression format. This is what seems to benefit most uses and users by far. > > In other words, this commit should just be reverted. While ZFS is one of the strong features for using FreeBSD, more than the half of my setups back /var/log on UFS/FFS. And since bzgrep(1) lives in /usr/bin (just like bzless is), the claim of extra effort to decompress for pattern searching is not correct. Thank you Oliver, for your much more constructive postings, this is just a 'me wants it reverted too'! br, -harry