From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 11:17:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A914E16A403; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3195613C471; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp205-6.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net [203.122.205.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1SBGubT015921 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:46:56 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:46:42 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200702091903.l19J3Ik5099479@repoman.freebsd.org> <86vehohs7f.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070227205202.GA32651@garage.freebsd.pl> In-Reply-To: <20070227205202.GA32651@garage.freebsd.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1866131.qmogliA18N"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702282146.50638.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -1.783 () AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav , Brooks Davis , Pawel Jakub Dawidek , src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/amd64/conf GENERIC src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC src/sys/ia64/conf GENERIC src/sys/pc98/conf GENERIC src/sys/powerpc/conf GENERIC src/sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC src/sys/sun4v/conf GENERIC X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:17:04 -0000 --nextPart1866131.qmogliA18N Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 28 February 2007 07:22, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > Dag-Erling, you're proposing removing it from GENERIC, because ataraid > doesn't work nicely in the current world order. From what I looked some > time ago ataraid isn't using GEOM to access components. AFAIR at some > point ataraid was hidding components. Gmirror/graid3 for example opens > all components for write+exclusive which prevents such mistakes. > > Anyway, if we decide to remove glabel from GENERIC, I'd at least like to > make the consensus clear - ataraid should be changed to fit better in > what we currently have. I hope changing ataraid doesn't mean removing the ability to access the=20 underlying devices that comprise a RAID array. Having this ability is quite useful as it allows you to monitor the status = of=20 the subdisks easily (with smartmontools) as well as do things like read the= =20 serial numbers (atacontrol cap adX), etc.. I don't know if you can use smartctl, atacontrol, etc with graid3 as I don'= t=20 use it. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1866131.qmogliA18N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBF5WSi5ZPcIHs/zowRAiqmAJ90PeQ5pwHQNVccDw8A13TuH6HOSACfUXrs tvQQItQ6Q37iS05aCA/b+88= =gCiE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1866131.qmogliA18N--