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[79.66.158.223]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w18sm7218767wrt.79.2021.10.01.18.19.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:19:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) To: FreeBSD CURRENT From: Graham Perrin Subject: AMD64 UEFI loader: staging area: seeking a summary overview of D31121 and related bug reports Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 02:19:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HLq024Vd8z3tSJ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=GgPrN2J5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::32a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[79.66.158.223:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32a:from]; HAS_X_PRIO_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Amongst the related bug reports, : * suspects some kind of "special behaviour" with ASUS UEFI * also observes a regression in FreeBSD. Given other related bugs, which include (mostly HP, one Samsung): * please, can anyone offer a summary overview of the underlying situations? Something not-too-technical will be ideal. In particular, I'd like to counter an (off-list) implication that bugs such as these are simply the result of computer manufacturers' products not following "the standards". (Re: and so on, I do understand that complexities exist, however "the standards" is, for me, too sweeping a phrase; it's non-specific.) TIA, thanks also to everyone who is helping towards the fixes.