From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 01:09:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F1A16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:09:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647EA43D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:09:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b239.otenet.gr [212.205.244.247]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5N19k7X007512; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:09:51 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5N19bbb001936; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:09:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5N19VAJ001935; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:09:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:09:31 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Warren Smith Message-ID: <20050623010931.GA1844@gothmog.gr> References: <30210.204.167.177.68.1119374209.squirrel@www.wandrsmith.net> <30071.204.167.177.68.1119456547.squirrel@www.wandrsmith.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <30071.204.167.177.68.1119456547.squirrel@www.wandrsmith.net> Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:09:58 -0000 On 2005-06-22 11:09, Warren Smith wrote: >Ted Mittelstaedt said: >> The 4a users, by contrast, may be attracted to Linux initially due >> to the ease-of-entry issue your bringing up. But they try it and >> find out that it's dumbed-down interface gets in the way just as >> much as the Windows dumbed-down interface. That's where I think the >> majority of new FreeBSD converts come from - people that started >> with Windows, outgrew it, tried Linux for a while and got disgusted >> with the hand-holding, then went to FreeBSD and never looked back. > > I think you're probably right. This pretty much describes how I came to > FreeBSD. I just wonder if there is some way to shorten the trip and take > Linux completely out of the loop. Looking back, I wish I had known about > FreeBSD sooner. It would have saved me quite a bit of frustration. I > think FreeBSD would have been a much better platform for me to learn UNIX > on because I wouldn't have had to endure a paradigm shift in order to > continue the learning process. However, I suppose that having used Linux > made me appreciate the fundamental quality of FreeBSD more than I may have > otherwise. Hehehe. Me too These days, I don't use Linux if I have a choise, but I do appreciate the time spent learning the ropes of a UNIX-like system with early Slackware versions. - Giorgos (Who was converted to FreeBSD after several years of Linux, and that by sheer accident, when he tried to install OpenBSD and utterly trashed his partition table, losing all traces of Linux *AND* that other OS, in a [now] fondly remembered evening.)