From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 4 12: 8:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pmr.com (pmr.com [216.30.79.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9F937B503; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fagan (fagan.pmr.com [10.1.0.22]) by pmr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA27199; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:07:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from sfagan@pmr.com) Message-ID: <02d401c02e35$e17a31c0$1600010a@pmr.com> From: "Steve Fagan" To: , "Chris Coleman" Cc: , , "Michael Lucas" , "Neurosys" References: <8525696E.0067BB6B.00@Deimos.smed.com> Subject: Re: BSD Magazine (Advertiser Responses) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:04:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Books like these should help get the word out better too. Metro X for Linux & FreeBSD Hardcover, Metro Link, Incorporated, January 2000 ISBN: 0967017211 Freebsd for Dummies Hardcover, 384 Pages, I D G Books Worldwide, October 2000 ISBN: 0764507702 Author: Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Chris Coleman" Cc: ; ; "Michael Lucas" ; "Neurosys" Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: Re: BSD Magazine (Advertiser Responses) > > > This is a very good idea and one I hadn't thought of yet. > > If I am contacted by an advertiser who would be interested in > providing some banner ads on Daemon News, who should > I direct them to? > > The number of positive/interested responses I have received > thus far, outweigh the negative ones and even if we don't succeed > at getting a BSD magazine published, we will still have succeeded at > getting the word out about the BSDs and the BSD community. The > more people who are made aware of the BSDs, the more chance > and likelihood there will be for the appearance of a BSD magazine > on the news stands in the future. > > Joe > > > > |--------+-----------------------> > | | Chris Coleman| > | | | | x.com> | > | | | > | | 10/04/00 | > | | 11:46 AM | > | | | > |--------+-----------------------> > >---------------------------------------------------------| > | | > | To: Neurosys | > | cc: Michael Lucas | > | , | > | freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, | > | freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, (bcc: Joe | > | Warner/SMS) | > | Subject: Re: BSD Magazine (Advertiser | > | Responses) | > >---------------------------------------------------------| > > > > > > Well, if we can get these advertisers to start advertising on Daemon News, > that would help us raise the capital to start a magazine. > > If advertisers see that putting banner ads on Daemon News helps sell their > products, the will be more likely to advertise in a print magazine. > > Chris Coleman > Daemon News > http://www.daemonnews.org > Bringing BSD together > > On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Neurosys wrote: > > > Listen. In order to make this 'business'. you need capital to start it. > > Thats how you break the cycle. > > > > Neurosys > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Lucas" > > To: "David Johnson" > > Cc: "Joe Warner" ; ; > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:28 PM > > Subject: Re: BSD Magazine (Advertiser Responses) > > > > > > > > Are we already hitting a circular roadblock? Can't get a magazine > until > > > > we get advertisers, and we can't get advertisers until we get a > > > > magazine... > > > > > > Yep. Good luck. ;) > > > > > > Sorry, not to be sarcastic here... I've fought this battle before > > > (although not for BSD), and it's a long one. I can't help but > > > simultaneously feel sorry for you, and skeptical of the results. But > > > I certainly hope for success, and BSD has to win this fight *some* > > > day. > > > > > > FWIW, the second magazine will spring up on its own, inspired by the > > > first. > > > > > > ==ml > > > > > > -- > > > Michael Lucas > > > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > > > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > > > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message