From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jun 9 18:57:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29561 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29554 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA03025; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:26:19 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199706100156.LAA03025@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: REQ: help from Emacs/XEmacs/Jove/Jed/... users In-Reply-To: from Chuck Robey at "Jun 9, 97 09:44:38 pm" To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:26:19 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, jkh@time.cdrom.com, token@wicx50.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey stands accused of saying: > > Yeah, except the default command set just isn't as obvious to newbies. > That's the reason pico is such a good editor for them, it just works, even > for idiots. > > Yeah, I now remember the size thing, so because I don't feel like fighting > that battle again, I will let it drop again, and FreeBSD can stay > unfriendly for them. How about just writing a cut-down pico, perhaps you could call it "femto" or something? We're all 100% in agreement that the command set and screen layout is nice; all that's wrong is that the current implementation is Too Big. > > > > Jordan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[