From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 22 19:19:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5A90565; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 19:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626991DCC; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 19:19:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsGAMJtmFRbsIuB/2dsb2JhbABbgwZSWIMEw0eFbgKBGhcBAQEBAX2EDQEFIzMjEAsYAgIFIQICDyoeBhOIMAEIui+WFQEBAQEBBQEBAQEBHYEhjg8PMweCaIFBBZFPhTOBDjCCNIdLhg8ig289MYEFgT4BAQE Received: from 129.139-176-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.176.139.129]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2014 20:18:52 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBMJIr2x021761; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 20:18:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 20:18:53 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Mark Martinec Subject: Re: Removal of XAA acceleration in X.org, and older NVIDIA GeForce Message-ID: <20141222201853.08bfcc64@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <9f15ce6462062541cbaf3919ec420315@mailbox.ijs.si> References: <9f15ce6462062541cbaf3919ec420315@mailbox.ijs.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 19:19:03 -0000 On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 19:45:35 +0100 Mark Martinec wrote: > /usr/ports/UPDATING: >> 20141219: >> AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg and all xorg ports >> AUTHOR: dumbbell@FreeBSD.org >> The X.Org server (x11-servers/xorg-server) is updated to 1.14. >=20 > http://blogs.freebsdish.org/graphics/2014/11/19/xserver-1-14-update-ready/ >> Changes since xserver 1.12 >> The most visible change is the removal of XAA. This is a 2D=20 >> acceleration >> method which was deprecated some time ago, in favor of EXA or=20 >> Intel-specific=E2=80=99s >> UXA or SNA. For the end user, this means that some drivers=20 >> (xf86-video-*) >> are not supported anymore, mostly for older GPUs according to Phoronix. >> If you encounter this case, please let us know. >=20 > Ouch!!! Upgrading X -related ports went with no problems (FreeBSD 10.1), > but I didn't realize the outcome would be so terrible. Scrolling or > refreshing a full-screen page in a web browser now feels like in the > good old days of a 19200 bps line and a glass terminal. Even scrolling > or paging through plain text with 'less' or editor on a KDE konsole > or xterm feels sluggish. Certainly the size of the display does not > help in this regards (2560x1600). >=20 > The Xorg.0.log reports: > NV: Found NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT at 02@00:00:0 >=20 > Now I fear that upgrading ports on my other workstation > (GeForce 7600 GS) would lead to similar results. >=20 > I know these graphics boards are not the latest of breed > (the CPU and mb are still fairly decent). They were chosen for being > fan-less, and coping sufficiently well with 2D and text even on > largish displays. >=20 > So is my only choice now replacing graphics with heat- and noise- > sources I don't really need, or being stuck with frozen ports? > I wonder if I'm the only one in this situation. This card is still supported by x11/nvidia-driver-304