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Date:      Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:25:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
To:        tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert)
Cc:        ben@scientia.demon.co.uk, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Filtering port 25 (was Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to   talk to dialups)
Message-ID:  <199909290125.SAA17895@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <199909282354.QAA14538@usr07.primenet.com> from Terry Lambert at "Sep 28, 1999 11:54:38 pm"

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> > They already are, and you don't even know it.  It may be at a major
> > provider near you soon too.  These are _NOT_ proxy boxes, these are
> > the new generation of ``no change needed to client boxes'' web caches.
> 
> Pull the other one, and then ask Paul Vixie about his "Interceptor"
> box, and what's currently going on with it.

I'll go hunting for that there ``Interceptor''.

> > SMTP deserves very special attention due to the fact that the number 1
> > complaint of users of the internet is *SPAM*.  SPAM is propogated via
> > smtp.  Do I need to say more?  I can if I do.
> 
> I think you need to block POP3 and "Pine".  Most SPAM is propagated
> via either reading it at the ISP, or using POP3 and pulling it down 
> nto client machines.

Ahhh.. wrong side of the problem.   It needs to be stopped before it
gets into the users mail box, not on it's way from our server to
thier mail reader.  Besides, we don't want to store it either!!

> > HTTP deserves special treatment as it consumes 76% of our upstream
> > channel.  Our ability to reduce the cost of rendering service is good
> > common business practice.  If you want to continue to pay $15/month
> > for a service I can cost effeciency reduce to $8.00/month go right ahead,
> > meanwhile I'll be chomping away at your heals.
> 
> Block them animated GIF banner ads... that'll decrease your overhead.

No, CACHE the animated GIF banner ads making it look like our pipe to
the internet is much larger than it really is.  If I block them I'd
have to modify the AUP, if I make them fast our clients are just a
bunch of happy campers.

-- 
Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25)                    rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net


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