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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to boot after update from within auto-admin Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5f88b5f5e25c7fca7c5f3af2e74ab070@smokepit.net> <74dfc07e-0433-425f-b1d4-c02254eb06ce@palaceofretention.ca> <43a6e48acea1ba3b8ae57d6bb2e8d945@smokepit.net> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CM0IBzGNumvFcPcW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43a6e48acea1ba3b8ae57d6bb2e8d945@smokepit.net> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - s073.cyon.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - darktemple.ch X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: s073.cyon.net: authenticated_id: mma@darktemple.ch X-Authenticated-Sender: s073.cyon.net: mma@darktemple.ch X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.50 / 15.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[darktemple.ch:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[194.126.200.64:from]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[darktemple.ch:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[mma@darktemple.ch]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[darktemple.ch]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[mma@darktemple.ch]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47302, ipnet:194.126.200.0/24, country:CH]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~] X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gKRhG6gJHz3s1V --CM0IBzGNumvFcPcW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 08:20:26PM +0200, Daniel Lysfjord wrote: > On 2026-05-18 19:45, linuxblood wrote: > > On Monday, May 18th, 2026 at 1:15 PM, Mathias M. > > wrote: > >=20 > > > On Sun, May 10, 2026 at 03:29:31PM +0000, linuxblood wrote: > > >=20 > > > > I can't be the only one out there using "desktop-installer" and then > > > > receiving desktop notifications for updates being available via > > > > "auto-admin." I guess there's not enough people using > > > > "desktop-installer" noticing this and complaining to upstream about > > > > it. > > >=20 > > > You might very well be the only one using it. At least I've never saw > > > any need to use something like that, nor have I met anyone that did. > > > Because installing a window manager or desktop environment is as > > > simple as `pkg install` and then pay attention to what the pkg post > > > install messages are saying. As with any other program. > >=20 > > I may as well be the only one who has used it. ^_^ Actually, I've read > > about a small trickle of users here and there scattered across the web > > who have `claimed` to have used it. There are also html/video tutorials > > out there which mention it. I don't remember the exact links as I made > > the initial mistake of rushing through installation the first time > > without spending time with it and doing it correctly. > >=20 > > Live and learn, I won't make this mistake again in future installs. :) >=20 > It's even promoted as a good thing(tm), and slanted for adoption into the > installer itself[0] >=20 > 0: https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/blob/main/monthly-upd= ates/2025-06.md#kde-desktop-installer-option I don't see anything about the 'desktop-installer' package. This update seems to be about adding a new section to `bsdinstall(8)` to enable using that tool to install the desktop environment. But anyhow, I don't see why one would install anything WM/DE that way. The best DE is useless if one doesn't know=20 a) how to install packages=20 and b) read and understand the post install message And if anyone lacks those two skills, that person is not going to have a great experience using FreeBSD. =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF Regards, Mathias --=20 DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD, UNTIE! --CM0IBzGNumvFcPcW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSXcwa3xmXCSjFzs2SHlo9nzwrr/AUCagwWggAKCRCHlo9nzwrr /Oy2AQD/0jogAvtgH/bVcJ0jZzaR80QJiJMYHTaL7ln92boHfQD+MwmZ5Q6iGqWA nHszGtVrO+72ZdC5flWHJiLfcBi3tQk= =sjY4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CM0IBzGNumvFcPcW--