From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Oct 24 13:45: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C7C137B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21560 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2000 20:51:33 -0000 Received: from jhs.muc.de (193.149.49.84) by slarti.muc.de with SMTP; 24 Oct 2000 20:51:33 -0000 Received: from park.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9OGjXX18205; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:47:21 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200010241647.e9OGjXX18205@jhs.muc.de> To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd - Munich Unix & Internet consultancy X-Web: http://www.jhs.muc.de http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:39:20 -0000." <200010240739.AAA11051@usr01.primenet.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:45:33 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Terry Lambert wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Frederik Meerwaldt wrote: > > ->Differences... FreeBSD is a real Unix, while Linux is a ..how should I > > Hmmm. FreeBSD is not a UNIX, rather it's a UNIX alike OS. (Which really > > doesn't matter IMHO) > > Don't forget UNIX is a trademark of Open Group. > > Actually, it's a trademark of USL, licensed to The Open Group. `Actually' ;-) ... Well I'm not sure, ... the TM ownership has ceased to be of real relevance to me, but AFAIR Unix the TM was bought by SCO a few years back, (SCO=Santa Cruz Org, server div. of which is busy being bought by Caldera, a Linux distrib.) > I believe that the The Open Group license is exclusive, so I Exclusion not possible regarding current licensed usage of the name, only regarding granting of future licences to use the name. > don't know what impact Caldera's recent purchase has on their > ability to call Caldera Linux "UNIX". Unix the TM has moved a lot: AT&T Bell Labs NJ, then also licensed by Unix Europe in Putney London (a European subsidiary of AT&T) used to flog licences in the 80s, I guess just about every major computer co. can dig up a licence that they too are allowed to flog some ancient version of Unix, & use the name Unix in marketing etc (probably with a `this is not the original, but is based on' clause). Who this season holds the right to sell licenses to use the Unix TM I'm not sure, but as the Bavarian (Germany) division of SCO holds its quarterly business briefing this thursday (supported by Caldera, backed by Compaq), I'll ask them if they know who's the current owner of the trademark. Julian - Julian Stacey http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ Munich Unix Consultant. Free BSD Unix with 3900 packages & sources. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message