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Date:      Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:30:41 -0400
From:      "Steve Friedrich" <SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com>
To:        "grog@lemis.com" <grog@lemis.com>, "hardware@FreeBSD.ORG" <hardware@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Jim Shankland" <jas@flyingfox.com>
Subject:   Re: ATX boards and restart after power failure
Message-ID:  <199810131431.KAA25174@laker.net>

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:46:24 -0700 (PDT), Jim Shankland wrote:

>[Re: ATX m/boards that can't be made to power up without human
>intervention after a power failure:]
>
>Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> writes:
>
>> Assuming Pete McKenna's solution doesn't hold, have you thought of
>> informing Tyan of your displeasure?
>
>Already have.  They apparently hear this complaint often enough that
>they have a ready-made letter apologizing for the inconvenience;
>nonetheless, the suggested remedy is to switch to a Pentium II m/b
>and CPU.

But this is merely a feature of ATX.  Switch to an AT (baby AT, etc.)
m/b
and you should be free of this feature... I have an ASUS TX97 which is
also available as an ATX m/b. It doesn't have this feature, because
it's
not an ATX m/b.

>The subtext here seems to be that as far as Intel is concerned,
>Socket 7 is dead, and AMD is positioning the K6 as a desktop/gaming
>chip.  Maybe the m/b makers are even deliberately trying to migrate
>servers to the more expensive (and higher margin?) Pentium II boards.
>Or maybe they're just being dense.

Intel's been wrong before...

>It's a shame, because I'm not crazy about Intel patenting Slot 1, and
>I'd like to support AMD just to prevent Intel hegemony, and the
>Socket 7/K6 combo is *plenty* powerful enough for my current
>purposes; and cost is an issue.  Sigh.

You are not alone...

>We'll definitely be trying Pete McKenna's solution; I'll drop a
>brief note saying how it worked out for us.

Cool beans...
Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes.



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