From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 18:30:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B8A106564A; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13338FC08; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter-phk.freebsd.dk [192.168.48.2]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE8213E71; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4JIUngI015088; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:50 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Bruce Evans From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 20 May 2012 01:39:39 +1000." <20120520004236.D1313@besplex.bde.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:49 +0000 Message-ID: <15087.1337452249@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: Konstantin Belousov , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Robert Millan Subject: Re: headers that use "struct bintime" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:53 -0000 In message <20120520004236.D1313@besplex.bde.org>, Bruce Evans writes: >On Sat, 19 May 2012, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>>> Or maybe "struct bintime" be defined unconditionally? >> >> I think this is the best/right way to go. > >Not permitted. >sys/time.h is still massively polluted in other ways: > [...] >Not permitted in POSIX.1, [...] I think at this time, we can either religiously stick to POSIX and become irellevant with it, or we can develop our APIs to become useful and desirable, and have a chance to survive. Strictly 1980-compatible APIs will not gain FreeBSD 10+ any new users. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.