From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 27 11:32:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FFA16A4CE for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BC143D49 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:32:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBRJWnAS000540; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:32:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:32:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20031227.123241.23386608.imp@bsdimp.com> To: jhs@tower.berklix.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200312271240.hBRCe3ZF073646@flip.jhs.private> References: <200312271240.hBRCe3ZF073646@flip.jhs.private> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Least supported laptop for FreeBSD under $1k X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 19:32:54 -0000 In message: <200312271240.hBRCe3ZF073646@flip.jhs.private> "Julian H. Stacey" writes: : Unlike many of us, who want well supported laptops, Warner presumably : wants a single laptop which exhibits bad support in maximum areas, : to maximise fixing fun, while avoid needing multiple laptops, each : with just one or a few support problems. Yes. I want to get the most bang for the $$$. I want to be able to fix a dozen or so problems with just a small outlay of cash, which is a little tight at the moment. I'm also most interested in the following trouble areas: 1) Interrupt routing problems 2) PC Card/CardBus problems 3) Resource conflicts 4) Interrupt storms 5) Hangs at the end of the boot sequence 6) ACPI issues relating to suspend/resume. I'm not too interested in the following areas, except as it relates to the primary objectives listed above: 1) X doesn't work 2) Sound doesn't work 3) This weird NIC chip isn't supported. 4) This weird wireless isn't supported (although this one is borderline). I'm not looking for a pain-free experience. I'm looking for a laptop with lots of sharp edges that I can cut my fingers on so that others don't have to. Warner