From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:21:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C6016A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:21:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BFC43D5D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:21:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBEJLApj042829; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:21:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBEJLAtE042828; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:21:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:21:09 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20051214192109.GD41870@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:21:12 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:51:03PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Dec 14, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > I'm looking at buying a Celeron 3GHz m'board with the > > Via chipset. I'm not familiar with the via, but according > > to the Bsdforums, it works with FBSD. Does anybody know > > what kind of builtin audio of video is onboard? In other > > words, is this a good deal? > > You forgot to tell us which VIA chipset or MB-- there are lots and > lots of VIA-based motherboards around, with a wide variety of hardware. Here's the URL on the board. It looks okay, but then it was written by salesmen:). I'm flying blind here. http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=358&MenuID=22&LanID=2 > > I wouldn't get a Celeron + VIA combo; I'd rather use an Intel MB with > an Intel CPU, and I'd much rather get a Pentium-3/-M CPU then a > Celeron. Otherwise, go with an VIA socket-A motherboard and a Athlon- > XP/Barton/Sempron CPU, those should be quite inexpensive and yet > perform quite well. > My hardware days date from the Vax 11/70, and it's hard to keep track. But here's another question: What's wrong with the Celeron? The "better" Intel would be another $100. Re the Athlon, yes, it is a bit less, but doesn't it run hotter than the Intel? Half of my platforms are Celeron and I push them hard, but if AMD is just as good, then that's the way to go. thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix