From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 18 16:54:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CDAF98; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lifanov@mail.lifanov.com) Received: from mail.lifanov.com (mail.lifanov.com [206.125.175.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A0717BB; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.3.5] (cnet520-windstream.mcclatchyinteractive.com [166.108.16.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lifanov.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 609D619F63E; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51C090CD.3040102@mail.lifanov.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:54:37 -0400 From: Nikolai Lifanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130531 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andre Oppermann Subject: Re: svn commit: r251886 - in head: contrib/apr contrib/apr-util contrib/serf contrib/sqlite3 contrib/subversion share/mk usr.bin usr.bin/svn usr.bin/svn/lib usr.bin/svn/lib/libapr usr.bin/svn/lib/libap... References: <201306180253.r5I2rj45053959@svn.freebsd.org> <51C08D7E.2000605@coosemans.org> <51C08F58.2070308@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <51C08F58.2070308@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Tijl Coosemans , src-committers@freebsd.org, Peter Wemm X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:54:39 -0000 On 06/18/13 12:48, Andre Oppermann wrote: > On 18.06.2013 18:40, Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> On 2013-06-18 04:53, Peter Wemm wrote: >>> Author: peter >>> Date: Tue Jun 18 02:53:45 2013 >>> New Revision: 251886 >>> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/251886 >>> >>> Log: >>> Introduce svnlite so that we can check out our source code again. >>> >>> This is actually a fully functional build except: >>> * All internal shared libraries are static linked to make sure there >>> is no interference with ports (and to reduce build time). >>> * It does not have the python/perl/etc plugin or API support. >>> * By default, it installs as "svnlite" rather than "svn". >>> * If WITH_SVN added in make.conf, you get "svn". >>> * If WITHOUT_SVNLITE is in make.conf, this is completely disabled. >>> >>> To be absolutely clear, this is not intended for any use other than >>> checking out freebsd source and committing, like we once did with >>> cvs. >>> >>> It should be usable for small scale local repositories that don't >>> need the python/perl plugin architecture. >> >> This ties the repo to the oldest supported release, meaning that years >> from now we won't be able to use some new subversion feature because >> an old FreeBSD release doesn't support it. > > AFAIK there is a checkout-only SVN client available, as in cvsup, but I > don't > remember the name. > >> I don't find it unreasonable to ask developers to install the port. >> And for users it seems all they need is something like portsnap for base. >> Portsnap already distributes ports svn so it shouldn't be too hard to >> adapt it for base. And the extra layer it adds is very convenient. Apart >> from a bigger than usual update maybe, portsnap users never even noticed >> it was switched from cvs to svn at some point. > > Installing SVN from ports is very painful because of the huge dependency > chain it carries, with the largest being Python and Perl IIRC. > It's net/svnup and is a great replacement for cvs, in my opinion. CVS wasn't used for development for a long while anyway, so there is nothing subversion is replacing that net/svnup wouldn't. - Nikolai Lifanov