From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 16:19:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E188A1065690 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afriedman@drsns.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f21.google.com (mail-gx0-f21.google.com [209.85.217.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A128E8FC1E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afriedman@drsns.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so4998501gxk.19 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.28.8 with SMTP id f8mr2064696wfj.270.1223309971168; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.111? ([63.162.101.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm7679762yxq.9.2008.10.06.09.19.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: "Dr. Aharon Friedman" To: David Sanders In-Reply-To: <6228eb140810060825g784d0d1fle6738d3186cc4451@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 12:19:26 -0400 References: <363BDDAF-76C7-49AE-A8F5-EE1995C4CCBF@drsns.com> <6228eb140810060825g784d0d1fle6738d3186cc4451@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD a suitable choice for a MacBook? --- WHY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:19:33 -0000 Sorry, I meant BSD. Here is the link: http://www.freebsd.org/news/press-rel-3.html Aharon Friedman On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:25 AM, David Sanders wrote: > 2008/10/6 Dr. Aharon Friedman : >> I am not sure why you would want to put FreeBSD on the Mac. Mac is >> already >> FreeBSD. Most of the FreeBSD ports have been made available to the >> Mac >> through Macports. X11 comes with it, and Apple gives you access to >> the >> kernel source code. >> >> If you must for some reason have FreeBSD, I recommend using a virtual >> machine software such as VM Ware Fusion (the are cheeper when you >> buy from >> Amazon - about $60). It does work very well for me. Although I >> use the Mac >> OS for all my Unix needs, I have installed a Windows XP Pro 64 bit >> for my >> Windows need. You could create a Linux and / or FreeBSD virtual >> machine. >> The software will even download it for you. >> > > I'm just a lurker, but even I know that only some of the userland > apps in OS X > are BSD-based. The kernel is mach microkernel based and not even > slightly > similar. > > I don't think anyone is answering the OP's question, but put simply > Mac OS is > not BSD, and the X11 implementation is buggy to say the least. I > wouldn't > recommend it for most OSS stack dev work.