From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 15 23:53:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E431106566B for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [168.103.150.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EF78FC0C for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id p1FNqSSK008657; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:52:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from udns0.ultimatedns.net ([168.103.150.26]) (Local authenticated user inf0s) by webmail.1command.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:53:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <20110211191232.GA2073@zod.isi.edu> <86ce5acff788efe61ceabdffe9b194fd.HRCIM@webmail.1command.com> <20110214182159.GB47006@zod.isi.edu> <07d729abeedc3b764dccc00cf73b7762.HRCIM@webmail.1command.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:53:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Chris H" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: HRC Internet Messaging/1.5.2 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: wblock@wonkity.com, faber@isi.edu Subject: Re: ATI Radeon LW RV200 Mobility 7500 M7 locks up on X exit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:53:09 -0000 On Tue, February 15, 2011 12:21 pm, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Warren Block wrote: > > >> There are people who have difficulty with hal, and a much larger number who >> dislike it. I'd contend that problems with hal are not very widespread, or >> there would be a call for the Handbook X11 configuration section to change. > > Just to add something I should have mentioned in the first message: > > > One reason for problems with hal is the use of AllowEmptyInput "Off". > Usually it causes the "sticky mouse pointer" problem, but not always. > So many people were using AEI that I decided to write an article about > it: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html Fun reading, thanks for sharing. :) purely a question of semantics; I notice you consistently use "On" || "Off" Xorg(1) -configure emits "true"||"false" Do you, or anyone else know conclusively whether it's simply a matter of: On||Off||true||false||1||0 or is it /only/ one, or more of the above pairs? Just curious. In your defense to an earlier comment I made; it essentially /is/ a "crap shoot" when it comes to setting up Xorg(1). While Xorg(1) -configure is intended to get a "functional" version of X(7) up, and running. Hardware, is not Hardware, is not Hardware. So a lot of "trial, and error" /will/ be required to obtain an "optimal" X(7) environment for a specific combination of hardware. :) --Chris > > > The short version of that: don't use AEI at all. If you want to > disable hal device detection in xorg, use AutoAddDevices Off, or build > xorg-server without hal support. > > If anyone has the lockup-on-x-exit problem and is using AEI Off, please > change it to AutoAddDevices Off and see if it makes a difference. It may also be > due to window manager/desktop environment, or 32- or 64-bit OS. Mine have > mostly been xfce4 on 32-bit 8-stable, which may be why I haven't seen it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --