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Date:      Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:39:19 +0100
From:      "Marco van de Voort" <marcov@stack.nl>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Is FreeBSD dead? Well, not in theory...
Message-ID:  <20000313224127.2E91B2E803@hermes.tue.nl>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10003131346310.55157-100000@lion.butya.kz>
References:  <200003122012.PAA00812@etinc.com>

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> > >http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai/newbus-draft.txt comes to mind.  And when
> > >that is finished the manpages will follow.
> > >
> > >That's also why I am wasting my time slowly documenting the FreeBSD
> > >internals in my spare time.
> > 
> > "slowly" is the key word here. Real products are documented before they are
> > in commercial use. Plus by the time you're done they will be
> > outdated...another common problem.
> > 
> > Why are you arguing this point? Is there anyone that believes that Linux
> > and FreeBSD are well documented? Please. The books are out of date before
> > they hit the stores.
> 
> 	This is completly pointless. The user side of the FreeBSD is very
> well documented. The kernel internals has more poor documentation. But if
> someone want or need to contribute kernel side code, he is expected to be
> clueful enough to understand kernel sources _and_ ideolgy. In fact, it is
> doesn't require too much time. When you're jump in to truck, it is not too
> hard to track related source code changes and keep your code synched up.

Sorry, but that is nonsense. It just limits developpers that don't daily work 
on the kernel.

I don't agree. Users might have to patch to get their own systems running, and
moderate docs will help. Specially in find the right source, and eliminating 
possibilities of what to look into.  Also developpers that go outside their normal 
territory, can use the docs.

I managed to patch the linux kernel once without even knowing C, so knowledge
of the kernel internals is not necesssary to make a patch which works. Since
a patch always has to pass through experts hands before being committed, I 
also see no dangers to users working on the kernel, specially not for own use.

(it was trivial though, the order of the ports for the soundblaster mixer is different 
on some clones)



Marco van de Voort (MarcoV@Stack.nl)
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