From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 17:38:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B4C16A41F for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A674913C465 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l55HZF11046287; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:35:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:35:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20070605.113536.-861029287.imp@bsdimp.com> To: nlecic@EUnet.yu From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200706051638.l55Gc9Wu014651@smtpclu-3.eunet.yu> References: <20070605162424.0510a425@localhost> <20070605.095903.-432838228.imp@bsdimp.com> <200706051638.l55Gc9Wu014651@smtpclu-3.eunet.yu> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:35:16 -0600 (MDT) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making clips Windows Media Player likes X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:38:23 -0000 In message: <200706051638.l55Gc9Wu014651@smtpclu-3.eunet.yu> Nikola Lecic writes: : Hello : : On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:59:03 -0600 (MDT) : "M. Warner Losh" wrote: : : > In message: <20070605162424.0510a425@localhost> : > Norberto Meijome writes: : > : On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:15:10 -0600 (MDT) : > : "M. Warner Losh" wrote: : > : : > : > Is there a secret to making video clips that windows media player : > : > likes? So far, all the ones I've done result in a fatal error at : > the : > end. Is there a code/format I should specify to make things : > good? : > : > : > The source material is DV video that I've encoded with Kino and : > then : > split apart to get a few short (~10s) clips that are the : > highlights. : : > : what encoding? wmv? : > : > The clips are currently encoded for a DVD in mpeg2video format. : : I think mencoder (a part of multimedia/mplayer) can do what you want. : It handles mpeg2video. : : "mencoder (MPlayer's Movie Encoder) is a simple movie encoder, : designed to encode MPlayer-playable movies (see above) to other : MPlayer-playable formats (see below). It encodes to MPEG-4 : (DivX/XviD), one of the libavcodec codecs and PCM/MP3/VBRMP3 audio in : 1, 2 or 3 passes. Furthermore it has stream copying abilities, a : powerful filter system (crop, expand, flip, postprocess, rotate, : scale, noise, RGB/YUV conversion) and more." : : (mplayer manpage). Thanks for the suggestion. I've been using mplayer/mencoder for about three years now to view videos and to do some minor transcoding of videos. Hoever, I've spent the last three weeks with kino, mencoder, ffmpeg, mpg2desc, mpegtranscode, and mpginfo trying to come up with something that will work. These tools all work great together to translate the DV videos into generic MPEG streams that dvdauthor/dvdstyler can use to make nice DVDs. The specific question I have is what hoops do I need to jump through to make it work with Windows Media Player and Windows Movie Maker. What container formats work best when you are sending clips to relatives that have just Microsoft's media player? Which codecs are the ones that I want to use? Does that answer change if I use Windows Movie Maker? So far my attempts to discover the right things by trial and error have been frustrating and have all ended in error. So my question isn't 'what tools' to use. My question is 'what parameters to feed to the tools to be maximally compatible?' Warner