From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 11 11:16:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from wwweasel.geeksrus.net (wwweasel.geeksrus.net [64.67.200.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D9537B419; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alane@localhost) by wwweasel.geeksrus.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0BJGE845411; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:16:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from alane) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:16:14 -0500 From: Alan Eldridge To: Joe Clarke Cc: dwcjr@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Ports List Subject: Re: CUPS support can be unconditional Message-ID: <20020111191614.GA45396@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> References: <20020111182721.GA42417@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <20020111134107.J80091-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20020111191014.GA45037@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020111191014.GA45037@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 02:10:14PM -0500, Alan Eldridge wrote: >On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:42:33PM -0500, Joe Clarke wrote: >>On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Alan Eldridge wrote: >> >>> I would recommend, upon some reflection, doing this the way we did in >>> kdelibs. That is, cups-base is unconditional. If somebody really >>> wants to use cups, they can't rely on another port to suck it in via >>> dependency anyway; it doesn't work without being configured. >> >>I don't understand why your making CUPS mandatory for Samba. Some users >>won't want it period. They'll want to stick with BSD printing (like for >>use with apsfilter). This will cause unnecessary download and build time. >> >A user who installs both samba and cups from packages (for example, >when installing a new system from CDROM) finds that it won't work? > >That is a rather gross violation of POLA. > Case in point: Building a new file and print server, I would not be likely to install development tools. So if I want cups + samba, I have to go to another machine with development tools installed, build a new samba, install it, make a package, transfer it back to the machine I'm setting up? That's pretty harsh just to save someone else the time of downloading a 4M package file. -- Alan Eldridge Pmmfmffmmfmp mmmpppppffmpmfpmpppff PmpMpmMpp ppfppp MpfpffmppmppMmpFmmMpm mfpmmmmmfpmpmpppff. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message