From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 13 10:43:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DC31065698; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868B18FC15; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4247C3F5B6; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7DARvPl024589; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:27:58 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Bruce Evans From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 13 Aug 2010 19:46:42 +1000." <20100813191149.V12776@delplex.bde.org> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:27:57 +0000 Message-ID: <24588.1281695277@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: mdf@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: replace vm_offset_t with uintptr_t and vm_size_t with size_t X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:43:49 -0000 In message <20100813191149.V12776@delplex.bde.org>, Bruce Evans writes: >On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 mdf@FreeBSD.org wrote: >I prefer to fix printf. [...] I never >learned exactly what %I does, but think it should have 2 variations, >something like a plain %I causing the compiler to rewrite the literal >format string, replacing %I with the appropriate Standard format, and >%I for interpretation by the library. I think printf is fundamentally broken, and "fixing" it by compiler magic would just galvanize the brokenness for all time. If you position is that C as a quality language is not salvageable, then I guess that makes sense, if you still have hopes for ISO-C coming to their senses, it does not. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.