From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 30 18:09:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF90D106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from akirchhoff135014@comcast.net) Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995F48FC0C for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2J4S1h0041ei1Bg5CJ9423; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:09:04 +0000 Received: from sorrow.ashke.com ([174.57.84.251]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2J921h0095RMJ3S3kJ92xD; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:09:03 +0000 Message-ID: <4E0CBBBD.9090704@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:09:01 -0400 From: Adam K Kirchhoff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110628 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michal Varga References: <20110623221305.43b74d53@davenulle.org> <4E0AEA54.1080806@bally-wulff.de> <4E0C016E.1040909@comcast.net> <201106300523.41240.akirchhoff135014@gmail.com> <4E0C5142.2020903@comcast.net> <20110630132455.13304880@mr12941> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphic card that works? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:09:05 -0000 On 06/30/11 14:03, Michal Varga wrote: > > - So ATI is out of question. Seriously, I'm not going into ATI > flamewars again. I don't work for Nvidia (and wouldn't care for them > even slightly if their products weren't so good - for me). And I > actually own ATI hardware, sadly. And I have seen so many ATI users > and experienced so many of their problems that I could have me made a > fur coat out of the hair I lost through it. It's a waste of time. > Anyone who can seriously *RECOMMEND* ATI card for anything but simple > desktop work (dragging windows and watching unaccelerated video) is > either completely delusional, or clearly hates the other person he is > recommending to (or simply never owned an ATI product but feels like > recommending them anyway, that happens too). If someone is dumb enough > to pick that advice even through the internet is full of easily > accessible information about how horrible crap ATI products are (both > in HW and SW, and the SW part especially counts for FreeBSD, where > there is comepletely *NONE* support from ATI), then, fine - let him > have it. As someone once said: No lesson is fully learned without > pain. I love how you say you're not going into an ATI flameware again, and then you spend the entire paragraph trying to start one. Adam