Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 13:15:56 +0100 From: Doug Rabson <dfr@rabson.org> To: Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com> Cc: Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>, Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, Elena Mihailescu <elenamihailescu22@gmail.com>, Mihai Carabas <mihai.carabas@gmail.com> Subject: Re: ARM64 virtualization? Message-ID: <CACA0VUhGe9=oiuwhdNYHWGk%2Bbsj6xc20ArFrGM-ykf3NzfUZrw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9aacad10-01c1-a0b5-a2de-32abf670feec@bsdio.com> References: <7CCEC16E-41A1-4318-B953-EF61D17EEE3C@mit.edu> <2f69f9a1-e976-65d6-c0be-74404640d1c1@shrew.net> <08360ee6-6829-5362-8188-cdbd2c20e59b@bsdio.com> <CA%2B1FSiiGLYjpo9xkjxDzB%2B%2BUC4XZCytBmzrWXEf-jWekEAntpw@mail.gmail.com> <9aacad10-01c1-a0b5-a2de-32abf670feec@bsdio.com>
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--0000000000000816f705fbe2a73b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Rebecca, I would be very interested in hearing about your experience with it, particularly how noisy it is. $2621 for an 80 core workstation seems like a really good deal :) DOug. On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 13:11, Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com> wrote: > I'm getting the Ampere Developer Kit from > https://www.ipi.wiki/products/com-hpc-ampere-altra . > > > -- > > Rebecca Cran > > > On 5/16/23 10:14, Mario Marietto wrote: > > Hello Rebecca, > > > > i will be happy to help you. what system you will buy ? i want to > > evaluate the cost. If it is affordable for me I will also buy the same > > and i could test your code or something else task that you need. i ve > > been always interested in the bhyve development. > > > > Il mar 16 mag 2023, 17:41 Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com> ha scritto: > > > > On 5/15/23 13:58, Matthew Grooms wrote: > > > > > On 5/15/2023 2:39 PM, John F Carr wrote: > > >> Is there any active work on getting bhyve virtualization > > working on > > >> 64 bit ARM? I see some work was started a few years ago (e.g. > > >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26976, > > >> https://bhyvecon.org/bhyvecon2016-Mihai.pdf). It seems to have > > been > > >> abandoned or at least stalled. > > >> > > >> I may be able to help. It's not a project I can take on myself. > > > > > > Porting bhyve to arm has been one of the longest running UPB > > projects. > > > You can find more info on the history here ... > > > > > > > > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/202303?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Presentation+-+bhyvecon.pdf > > < > https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/202303?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Presentation+-+bhyvecon.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your best bet is probably to take a look a the following review > > opened > > > by Andrew Turner late last year. His work is based on the original > > > port by the UPB team ... > > > > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37428 > > > > > > I can't speak to the current state of this work. From what I > > recall, > > > there were several attempts made by UPB to collaborate, but they > > > failed to get a response. Perhaps he/they can chime in here with > > more > > > detail. > > > > I'll be getting an Ampere system in the next few weeks and hope to be > > able to work on the Aarch64 bhyve code. > > > > > > -- > > > > Rebecca Cran > > > > > > --0000000000000816f705fbe2a73b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Rebecca,<div><br></div><div>I would be very interested = in hearing about your experience with it, particularly how noisy it is. $26= 21 for an 80 core workstation seems like a really good deal :)</div><div><b= r></div><div>DOug.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"= ><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 13:11, Rebecc= a Cran <<a href=3D"mailto:rebecca@bsdio.com">rebecca@bsdio.com</a>> w= rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p= x 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb= (204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I'm getting the Ampere Developer Kit fr= om <br> <a href=3D"https://www.ipi.wiki/products/com-hpc-ampere-altra" rel=3D"noref= errer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ipi.wiki/products/com-hpc-ampere-altra= </a> .<br> <br> <br> -- <br> <br> Rebecca Cran<br> <br> <br> On 5/16/23 10:14, Mario Marietto wrote:<br> > Hello Rebecca,<br> ><br> > i will be happy to help you. what system you will buy ? i want to <br> > evaluate the cost. If it is affordable for me I will also buy the same= <br> > and i could test your code or something else task that you need. i ve = <br> > been always interested in the bhyve development.<br> ><br> > Il mar 16 mag 2023, 17:41 Rebecca Cran <<a href=3D"mailto:rebecca@b= sdio.com" target=3D"_blank">rebecca@bsdio.com</a>> ha scritto:<br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 5/15/23 13:58, Matthew Grooms wrote:<br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> On 5/15/2023 2:39 PM, John F Carr wrote:<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Is there any active work on getting bhyve = virtualization<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0working on<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> 64 bit ARM?=C2=A0 I see some work was star= ted a few years ago (e.g.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26= 976" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D2697= 6</a>,<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> <a href=3D"https://bhyvecon.org/bhyvecon20= 16-Mihai.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://bhyvecon.org/bhy= vecon2016-Mihai.pdf</a>). It seems to have<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0been<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> abandoned or at least stalled.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> I may be able to help.=C2=A0 It's not = a project I can take on myself.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Porting bhyve to arm has been one of the longe= st running UPB<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0projects.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> You can find more info on the history here ...= <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/20230= 3?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dview&target=3DPresentation+-+bhyvecon.pd= f" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/= 202303?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dview&target=3DPresentation+-+bhyvec= on.pdf</a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<a href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/2= 02303?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dview&target=3DPresentation+-+bhyveco= n.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSum= mit/202303?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dview&target=3DPresentation+-+bh= yvecon.pdf</a>><br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Your best bet is probably to take a look a the= following review<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0opened<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> by Andrew Turner late last year. His work is b= ased on the original<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> port by the UPB team ...<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37428"= rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37428</a= ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> I can't speak to the current state of this= work. From what I<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0recall,<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> there were several attempts made by UPB to col= laborate, but they<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> failed to get a response. Perhaps he/they can = chime in here with<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0more<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> detail.<br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I'll be getting an Ampere system in the next fe= w weeks and hope to be<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0able to work on the Aarch64 bhyve code.<br> ><br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- <br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Rebecca Cran<br> ><br> ><br> <br> </blockquote></div> --0000000000000816f705fbe2a73b--
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