From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 13 6:10:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from postal.linkfast.net (postal.linkfast.net [208.160.105.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8F837BE13 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:10:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grasshacker@linkfast.net) Received: from kickme (p161.usr.linkfast.net [208.170.100.161]) by postal.linkfast.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A61619B02 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 08:10:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003b01bfbcdc$6059fb40$a164aad0@kickme> From: "gh" To: References: <391D4DAD.FD80980A@picusnet.com> Subject: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already? Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 08:08:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > On Sat, 13 May 2000, Brennan W Stehling wrote: > > > > My flawed upgrade to 4.0 a while back left me feeling FreeBSD is going too > > > fast and that stability and quality is suffering. A friend of mine was > > > actually scared off and now prefers to go with Linux as it's development > > > seems to be more conservative. > > I don't know what kind of crack that guy is smoking, but there is > nothing at all conservative about Linux or GNU in general. Even if we > forget about all the communist ideology behind the GPL, they'll still > take a patch from just about anyone unless it total sucks. The only > reason that it looks like FreeBSD is moving so fast, as opposed to say, > RedHat, is because FreeBSD is controlled by one group, as opposed to > scavenging everything rom thousands of different people. Linux its self > is just an operating system kernel and can do nothing useful on it's > own. > Plus, do you think it's coincidence that Richard Stallmans name sounds > so much like Joseph Stalin? > > Curious: If many people are not in favor (for lack of a better phrase) of GNU, why do we still use tools developed under its ideology? As above, people are comparing this group to a group of "communists" and Stallman to Stalin. Who are we (or 'these people') to continue *using* GNU tools and things development along its ideology? This is almost like saying: Okay, we *really really* don't like you people, but as long as you are developing stuff, and are giving it away for free, we will gladly exploit this to further ourselves. With which I don't think I have a problem, but what do others believe? Dan gh Moved to -chat from -questions because -chat is more appropriate for this new question. ;-) > -- > William D. Freeman (wfreeman@picusnet.com) > http://memebers.xoom.com/EvilGNU > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GG d- s+:+ a--- C++ UB+++ P+ L- E--- W++ N-- o-- K- w--- > O---- M-- V-- PS--- PE+++ Y- PGP---- t+++ 5-- X+++ R* tv++ b+ DI++++ > D---- > G- e-- h! r++ !y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message