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Date:      Fri, 8 Nov 2002 22:49:20 -0500
From:      Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
To:        Daniel Eischen <eischen@pcnet1.pcnet.com>, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        ataraxia@cox.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING
Message-ID:  <p05200f06b9f23434f40d@[128.113.24.47]>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10211081806220.10745-100000@pcnet1.pcnet.com>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.10.10211081806220.10745-100000@pcnet1.pcnet.com>

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At 6:13 PM -0500 11/8/02, Daniel Eischen wrote:
>On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>
>>  In message: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10211081205020.27766-100000@pcnet1.pcnet.com>
>>              Daniel Eischen <eischen@pcnet1.pcnet.com> writes:
>>  : All the ports are going to be rebuilt for the release anyways,
>>  : so this doesn't affect fresh installs, correct?  It is only a
>>  : problem when mixing older 4.x and 5.0 libraries/binaries with
>>  : __sF-free libc (if I understand things correctly).
>>
>>  The problem is that you cannot have 4.x packages and 5.x packages
>  > co-mingled on the same system.  that's what I'm trying to fix.
>  > You'd have to rebuild the 4.x packages before they are fixed.
>
>I don't think this is a show-stopper.  Just recompile all your
>ports or use the pre-built 5.0 packages.

This assumes that you have the source code to everything you are
running, which may not be true.  This also assumes that "all you
need to do" is type another 'make' in some directory, and your
source code will pleasantly compile without any new problems
from any of the long list of changes to include-files, ports,
or the new version of gcc.

Yes, every user can eventually plow their way through all that
work, and by the time they do we'll probably already have
5.1-release out.

Philosophically I would prefer that __sF was completely gone for
5.0-release, but at the moment I think Warner is right in saying
that we need to keep it in libc until at least 5.1.

-- 
Garance Alistair Drosehn            =   gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer           or  gad@freebsd.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    or  drosih@rpi.edu

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