From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 8 17:02:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276FB16A4CF for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:02:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from TRANG.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBEF43D1F for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by TRANG.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i68H29VO004112; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i68H28He004111; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:02:08 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Steve Kargl Message-ID: <20040708170208.GA3793@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200407062323.02854.kirk@strauser.com> <20040707043251.GA35651@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <200407062345.24117.kirk@strauser.com> <20040707070012.GC38356@dragon.nuxi.com> <40EC11EB.4060804@sympatico.ca> <20040707152149.GG82302@elvis.mu.org> <20040707160745.GA39557@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20040707224510.E18741@volatile.chemikals.org> <20040708032639.GA43737@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040708032639.GA43737@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rewrite cvsup & portupgrade in C X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:02:10 -0000 On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 08:26:39PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > > >My initial argument does not invlove the language. I don't > > >care about the language. My argument is that neither cvsup > > >nor csup belong in the base system. Both utilities can be > > >installed from ports. If you're going to import csup, then > > >I hope csup goes through a security audit and you define a > > >NO_CSUP make.conf variable. > > > > Does "csup" belong in the tree more, or less than cvs? > > csup does not belong in the base system. cvs belongs in > the base syste A CVS sup'ing program does belong in the base system -- it is the best way for tracking security updates (via the RELENG_X_Y branch). Think of it as FreeBSD's "MS-Windows Update" functionality. To date, CVSup was too difficult to easily integrate w/in /usr/src. A new CVS sup'ing program writting in a language supported by the toolchain in the base system (FORTRAN would be fine, for example) should be overly welcomed into the tree. Don't worry guys, it would only add 1 minute to your build world times. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)