From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 7 17:21:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA20434 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 17:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usr08.primenet.com (tlambert@usr08.primenet.com [206.165.6.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA20429 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 17:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13169; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 17:20:58 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199709080020.RAA13169@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Divert sockets.. To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 00:20:58 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, brian@awfulhak.org, doconnor@Ist.flinders.edu.au, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19970908091046.29405@lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Sep 8, 97 09:10:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Sure. I just don't know what packets are triggering it. There's > > almost nothing running at all (literally; no routed, named, > > whatever). > > Who says it has to be at your end? It may not be. I have to run in debug mode first. Maybe later tonight or tommorrow. Kinda stupid for an ISP to do that, though, and I doubt PrimeNet is that stupid. > > And there's the annoying localhost DNS lookup, even though host.conf > > has "hosts" first, and the name of the machine I'm rlogin'ing into > > is in /etc/hosts (it's myself). It triggers the PPP dial anyway, > > and I think that should only happen for non-local hosts. > > Well, why aren't you running named? It's faster than looking up > /etc/hosts. And if you don't tell the world it's there, it's not > going to get any external traffic. I will run named, once I get my HP345 stable enough that I want it up most of the time. Until then, just having a hosts file that I FTP around is enough. > >> The thing I don't understand is how re-writing anything is going to > >> solve a problem where people want the link to shutdown subliminally :-) > > > > Change the ground rules on the shutdown, for one... different issues > > for SLIP/ISDN, for another. > > Why? Because of the shorter connect time, you can have a shorter idle time for ISDN, for one. A number of ISP's in the Seattle area will actually call *you* when there are packets for you, so you are truly capable of running a server (mail, www, etc.). For SLIP, it depends. Some people actually still have NetBlazer's. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.