From owner-freebsd-java@freebsd.org Thu Mar 14 23:30:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328A21533726 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 23:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-f43.google.com (mail-io1-f43.google.com [209.85.166.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 013467379D for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 23:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-f43.google.com with SMTP id y6so6685449ioq.10 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:30:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zINLbWnN4jZoIJehpoKWhKMGeYs4gjJclGLPRhzv68Q=; b=KIKayt4uYynQU4Qu8V2WQdkSWruwjPOaja18hQYm0js8hrh5col9qncNEsMP/ulxdv 1yians4KoYYgjF4kVIA8T5ZWFYTcYLgzLFwBTcrL6pSmAJSJ61Z8sAGpoQCJPKACsQbG zjmguIPF7ZDsmXXVnNbtAAIHpS3/3r7zdl6Oo9o8WGVeSBY45/VpaKqlGzau6H/ESBYT 33oDFF2QmcLfJjbwfHKV6/mb3KwmyIFLo81G2ir0P65o41jthnAJFyaBNIOVjahLSccf uQgF7wm9+CQXPgS2kHDgqVHvoljNC6Igz9C9vwFblEpQKL6xTGimO+OLCf/qBnCFTwHy r1qw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUPoTWW6zm5pMNYtlRxxuDOksZqvAFMhwf5IHiWM95/EUFuU2Qm tipsMzu+aAJsoTfBGRyvYzKlXbwa24x39KohPvs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxmZICGIVzPvAVoxyy5/K//i4NrM9GZEIOAGYOVyUkP8xzAFQIWPgnXxkkvhgbWcoLkxaIkrliv3zqKDV/yKIw= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:860e:: with SMTP id f14mr378545iol.294.1552605853549; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:24:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190308180402.GA61500@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <20190314105052.56b1c6c3@almond.int.arc7.info> <20190314214648.GA38669@misty.eyesbeyond.com> In-Reply-To: <20190314214648.GA38669@misty.eyesbeyond.com> From: Ed Maste Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 19:24:00 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: JDK 11 update To: Greg Lewis Cc: Mark Raynsford , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 013467379D X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[org.freebsd.java]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-java@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.67)[-0.670,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[43.166.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.86)[ip: (-8.27), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.88), asn: 15169(-2.08), country: US(-0.07)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 23:30:48 -0000 On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 17:49, Greg Lewis wrote: > > Thanks for looking into [adoptopenjdk.net]. > > I'd suggest that to move forward someone would need to take lead on the > following: > > * Talk to AdoptOpenJDK folk to get more details of what the need in terms > of machines/VMs. What sort of resources do their machines have > (CPU/memory/disk)? What sort of access does the CI/build infrastructure > need? Is this a case of supplying machines/VMs or would it make more > sense to fund them in their existing build farm? I had a preliminary discussion with AdoptOpenJDK folks some time ago, but nothing came of it as it was too early (without the port being ready). I'll find out what resources are needed, and the FreeBSD Foundation should be able to make machines or VM time available. > My biggest question would be what value does this add versus the existing > FreeBSD package infrastructure? That will also feature binary packages > for all supported FreeBSD versions and costs neither resources nor time > to set up other maintaining the FreeBSD port (which has to be done anyway). This woudn't replace OpenJDK in the ports tree / package collection but augment it. The benefit I see from having FreeBSD in AdoptOpenJDK is having FreeBSD "just work" the same way as other operating systems for folks already familiar with that environment and with tooling built on AdoptOpenJDK, and to improve discoverability.